Conditioning or Just Fun???? - Part II (Definitely Conditioning 😊)

[Guest SandL]

Hi all, this is a follow up to my post a couple of days ago about conditioning. I thought I’d do a separate post instead of just adding to the other...I never know which is best. Anyway, I started a new one  

I’m having to reduce my sexual activities because of a minor procedure I’m having in a few days and at first it was driving me crazy! Like, “climbing the walls bitch in heat nympho” crazy! 😂 But as it turns out...it was the best thing for us! It gave us the chance to talk about all of this lifestyle stuff without being distracted with Robert’s big black cock being in my mouth and pussy so much . And it was sooooooo good for both of us. We needed these talks and we both made them lots of fun! But last night’s was out of this world! We stayed up almost all night discussing and playing and well....conditioning . Turns out, we’ve both been conditioned since we’ve been on this site. My good friend Hotwife/cuckluvR (I can never remember if I’m supposed to use her name or not) and Secondjag (my dream daddy ) have gone a long way in conditioning me. Hotwife/cuckluvR didn’t mean to, I don’t think 🤔...but Secondjag did since all his damn videos have that intended purpose . 

Steve and I have had lots of talks about where this is all going and it started with our sex after he watched me and Robert the second time. I was very different that night than I was the first time. Maybe it was because I was so much more at ease...maybe because we were all so sexually charged up...maybe it was because of that red headed waitress that was hitting on my husband...or maybe because this female led stuff is just more natural to me than I ever thought. 

Anyway, i won’t go into all the details of that right now...that’s not really what this post is about...but 2 little things: First, I made Steve watch Robert fuck me from the doorway of our spare room. He didn’t stay there because I was a little distracted with my many orgasms  and he was able to sneak in. That took Steve by surprise though and turns out he liked me “leading” in that way. Second, I didn’t let Robert cum inside me that night. He came in my mouth...which I also love....but I prefer him to cum inside my pussy. I just love the feeling of a big cock swelling inside me and being so deep that I can feel it....so why didn’t I let him? Because I wanted to play with Steve right after. The first time he watched he made me shower before he would play with me....so because I wanted to be with Steve right after, I didn’t let him cum inside me. And here’s the second thing. As soon as we got to our bedroom, Steve asked me to shower and I just said no and started kissing him and pushed him back on the bed. I kept kissing him and slid up onto his face. He tried to stop me so I told him that Robert’s cum wasn’t inside me...so he let me. (For later, remember where Robert came )  I started sliding my pussy back and forth over his mouth but I wanted more...I said “I wish Robert came inside me”...Steve obviously didn’t say anything and I couldn’t really tell what he thought about that...but i was more concerned with what I was thinking. The thought of sitting on Steve’s face after Robert came inside me was driving me crazy...I started really fucking his face and pulling his mouth up into me...it was an incredible orgasm...maybe better than the one Robert had given me before. But after that came the “we have to talk” comment and I was a little scared. I thought I had made a mess of things but Steve wasn’t as upset as I thought. Eventually, we were able to talk about what he was thinking and that it was mostly centered around where this was going. He told me he was not up for the creampie thing and I said okay. 

Anyway, as time went on...I got a little sick and went to the doctor and they said I needed to watch my heart rate until i get this minor procedure thing done. Added to that, this has been one of the busiest times for Steve’s work so he’s been gone a lot. A LOT! So its just been me and my mind and this site and my friends. And its been driving me even crazier! I want stuff and I want to make sure I get all of it!  But at the same time I don’t want to get my stuff if Steve doesn’t want it. I really do love him and how he feels about things is really important to me. I don’t ever want to disrespect him...even if I tease him its because I know he likes it and likes what I’m teasing him about.

For instance: God I love Robert’s big black cock, Steve! I love how he makes me feel like such a woman, Steve! He’s such a man! I didn’t know a man could fuck like that! — stuff like that. I know you’re hard as you read this Steve  

Anyway, I want certain stuff but I want Steve to want it too! 

What do I want????? I want Steve to clean me after Robert cums inside me. Yup. That’s what I want and I want it BAD! I’ve never watched a ton of porn but those videos that Secondjag posts...wow! I can’t stop! 😂 Plus, Hotwife/cuckluvR told me that the orgasm is out of this world when a man cleans a woman after another man has cum inside her. I do love orgasms...and orgasms that are out of this world sound even better! 😂 

So a few nights ago, Steve and I were talking. I asked him about the other night when I was sitting on his face and asked him if “Do you remember what I said?” He said “yes.” I asked “what did I say?”  He said “You said you wished Robert had cum inside you.” I said, “what did you think about it? Did it turn you on?” Silence. I asked “Is it something you would ever consider?” Silence. I got right in front of him and stared into his eyes...silence. So I said, “It’s okay. You don’t have to answer.” 

Later that night I so wished I had pushed it a little more...and the next day I was kicking myself. So I started reading articles. I found some that were purely scientific...not a story or anything...about cuckolding and all the different versions of it and what some husbands do and why they do it and why they like it. I also started sending him some of the forums from on here about husbands cleaning their wives. I wouldn’t say I was consciously trying to condition him...I just wanted him to see that lots of husbands do it and lots of them like it and it doesn’t have to be anything more than something a kinky couple likes to do and it doesn’t have to be judged. I also showed him some comments from women on here and how it doesn’t change how they feel about their husbands. 

That all led up to last night. We were playing around pretty late since we haven’t been able to spend a whole lot of time together and plus Steve didn’t have to work today. So we stayed up almost all night. So we had some fun. Here’s how it went...as best I remember. If Steve is willing, he can correct me if I’m wrong.  

Me: I found a cuckold quiz on the site

Steve: Quiz? 

Me: Yeah. (Smiling) You’re my cuckold. Let’s see how much...(its a post on here and asks 25 questions about sex and cuckolding stuff...you give a score between 1 and 5...add them up and it tells you how much of a cuckold you are) 

Steve: You’re crazy, Leslie. What are you doing???

Me: Pleeeeaaasseee. I just want to have fun

Steve: Okay...whatever. 

Me: Okay, I won’t watch you...I’ll go get my night-nights on...just tell me when you’re done

About 15 minutes later I came down. 

Me: Did you finish it? 

Steve: Yes. 

Me: Soooooooo let me see! 

Steve: Nope. 

Me: Come on!!! (Reaching for his dick...he stopped me...I could tell he was at least partially excited down there 😂)

Steve: I’ll tell you the final score but I’m not telling you anything else

Me: Okay...but yes you will (smiling really big)

Steve: 88.5

Me: .5???? 

Steve: There were a few that I was inbetween two numbers on....so I added the .5

Me: What score did you give #2 (your girl is telling you about her past experiences.) 

Steve: 4 

Me: What does 4 mean??? (I knew )

Steve: (reads) That thought gave me a hell of a hard-on. I can’t wait to do it.

I reach for his lap this time...no resistance at all  I start slowly stroking his “smaller than Robert’s big black cock” dick  

Me: What about  # 5??? (There is a guy that likes your girl, she knows and she is acting ‘slutty’)

Steve: 5 (That’s my darkest desire!)

Me: Ohhhh really??? Who? I know who. 

Steve: Who???

Me: Marcus?? (He’s a black guy that Steve plays basketball with quite a bit. He’s like 6’7”!) (I start stroking him harder) 

Steve: I guess 

Me:(scooting closer) You want to watch me act slutty with Marcus??? 

Steve: I don’t know if I’d actually want you to...but I’ve thought about it

Me: He’s yummy! Imagine how big his cock is, Steve. (I undid his pants and he slid them down...now i was stroking his dick with my hand) You’ve thought about him fucking me, haven’t you???

Steve: Yes...some. 

Me: But then he’d know you’re my cuckold

Steve: Its just fantasy, Leslie. 

Me: Is it???? Are you sure??? 

Steve: Yes. 

Me: Will you do something for me?? This is really turning me on talking about all of this...lick my pussy, baby. 

Steve: (without saying a word, gets on the floor in front of me and pulls my shorts and panties off...rips off maybe a better way to describe it ) (Immediately starts licking up my slit) 

Me: God I’m so wet, huh baby? 

Steve: sort of nods and muffles something  

Me: (I spread my legs further and put my hand on the back of his head gently pulling him into me)

Me: Give me your quiz

Steve: (pulls his head back) Nope (leans back in to lick me again)

Me: (that just made me feel a bit more mischievous) 

Me: ok. I won’t ask you again. Where is it, so I don’t find it??  

Steve: (pulls his head back) Nice try. Nope 

Me: (pulls his mouth back to my on-fire pussy) Wanna know what I’m thinking about??? 

Steve: mumbles, nods 

Me: Not Marcus. Not Robert. Steven. (Not to be confused with my Steve. Steven is a black guy that also plays basketball with my Steve. He’s not very good, really. 😂 But he’s BIG! He’s not too much taller than my Steve but he’s more of a  thick kind of big  Really thick! And he always wears these shorts that are kind of tight and you can tell that he is really really big under those shorts! Plus, he’s really funny and he always likes to talk to me ) (secondjag told me that other black guys will want to fuck me so I’ve been thinking about the other black guys I know...in a perfect world, Steven would be my choice for the next!) 

Me: (if I’m not mistaken, Steve really started to pick up the pace of his licking ) His cock looks so big in those shorts he wears. (Pulling Steve tighter into me) I wonder if he’s bigger than Robert?? He looks like it. 

Me: Are you imagining that, Steve?? Imagine Steven’s big powerful body...imagine him fucking me really hard, Steve...imagine it right here...on this couch...me sitting like this...with Steven’s big body over me...his big black cock fucking in and out of me...imagine me screaming...loving it...cumming all over his big black cock

Steve: mumbling something 

Me: (holding his head with both hands pulling him as tight against me as I could) 

Steve: (eating me deeper and faster and harder) 

Me: (I had an incredible orgasm...clamping my legs around his face...my tummy and legs shaking...turning side to side...holding him tight against me and then pushing him away and collapsing) 

When I opened my eyes, steve was sitting back and smiling and rubbing my thighs...but I wanted more  I had an agenda  so I reached for his head again and pulled him close to my pussy again...he was kissing up my thighs

Me: Steve, baby? 

Steve: yeah

Me: Tell me your quiz answers 

Steve: (laughing) No, Leslie

Me: Are you my cuckold? 

Steve: Yes, Leslie...we’ve talked about this

Me: (pushing him back) then lay back on the couch so I can sit on your face 

Steve: (sat with his back against the couch and laid his head down...I straddled his face and slowly and lightly slid my wet pussy back and forth from his chin to his nose) 

Me: did you think about Steven fucking me?? 

Steve: nodding, mumbling 

Me: you liked it didn’t you, cuck? 

Steve: nodding, mumbling sticking his tongue out

Me: (setting down a little more on his face) thinking about Steven made me really wet, didn’t it? 

Steve: (nodding, mumbling, licking) 

Me: touch yourself, Steve. Stroke your dick while you eat my pussy...while you think about Steven’s big black cock fucking me

Steve: (licking, stroking himself (but I think he already was))  

Me: You said you like to watch black men fuck me without a condom, didn’t you? 

Steve: (licking...stroking himself)

Me: I know you did. 

Me: You said you liked that they cum inside me, huh??? I know you did. Fuck, I love that! Imagine it Steve...imagine Steven cumming inside me with his huge black cock!  

Steve: licking faster...harder...pushing up while I slide my wet pussy back and forth over him....harder...

Me: You want to clean me, don’t you?? After he cums inside me with that big black cock??? Imagine it Steve...Imagine that Steven just fucked me and I’m doing this right now...imagine that I’m sitting on your face (pulling him up into me with his hair...fucking back and forth over his face) 

Me: cum for me, baby....stroke your dick while you think about Steven cumming inside me...imagine me sitting on your face right after...imagine cleaning me...imagine taking me back by licking me clean of his cum

Me: ( I was hoping Steve would cum right then...but he didn’t....but it didn’t take much longer...soon he started straining....I sat up a bit to let him breathe  and he was jerking really fast and had a huge orgasm himself ) 

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After that we talked a lot more. I really wasn’t supposed to be that active right now...but it was fine...and it was sooooooo good for us. Steve said,

Steve: That was awesome....but its just fun, Leslie. i don’t think I could actually do it.

Me: yes you do. You do know you could.

Steve: why do you say that??

Me: You already have 

Steve: WTF are you talking about?? 

Me: You already let me sit on your face after Robert fucked me

Steve: But he didn’t cum inside you

Me: No. but you know he let a little inside me. At least his pre-cum was in me. 

Steve: Yeah. But that’s not the same thing

Me: I know. But still. I was still pretty messy. And then there’s the kiss. 

Steve: What do you mean?? 

Me: He came in my mouth. You watched him do it. When we came up stairs afterwards, I didn’t wash my mouth out. You know that I didn’t. And then I kissed you really hard. I had swallowed it...but still...his cum was inside my mouth and on my lips. You didn’t stop me. You kissed me just as hard as I kissed you. Harder. 

Steve: silence 

Me: You knew. Didn’t you? You didn’t forget or anything. You knew. Huh? 

Steve: silence 

Me: Its okay. I like it. I like it a lot. I love it, actually. 

Steve: okay. 

Me: it doesn’t change how I think about you. You know that right? 

Steve: I guess so. Yes. 

Me: just now, I came so hard thinking about it. Thinking about you reclaiming me that way...being my husband that way. I loved it. 

Steve: silence

Me: I want to do it, Steve. With Robert. After he leaves. I want you to clean me next time. Okay? I really want to, baby. 

Steve: I don’t know. I don’t know if I can.

Me: we can just try, okay? If you don’t want to then we can stop. Okay? 

Steve: okay

Me: (smiling so big...hugging him) Thank you, baby. That’s my good cuckold  

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So that was last night  Steve still hasn’t shared with me his answers to the quiz....but it doesn’t matter. I got the results I wanted  

Soooo, Conditioning or Just Fun??? I would answer it this way: Conditioning IS Fun...for both of us!!!! 

Leslie 

 

 

[secondjag]

any cuckold i have known would have killed to have a wife like you baby.  for them, it was years of trying to bring the wife into it.

always amazing to find the wife who had the first desire and drive to make it happen

[PartyReadyCpl]

Awesome! When you fine tune your script you're going to be dangerous.

I've run across a lot of books on these subjects recently, For some reason I can't find the bookmarks that address what you're reading directly but if you look around some I;m confident you'll find those.

However what you're doing borders on mind control, guided imagery, NLP , hypnosis, and such. don't be put off by any "pseudo science" labels. You're a smart lady so you should be able to find the relevant links that relate to the "real science" you're reading. You'll also find connections to the seduction, flirting and dating categories, and the CIA and NSA archives that are here as well. At first blush if might appear unrelated however if you take the time to dabble a bit some of it is nearly word for word as most or many of the authors do reference back to prior science such as the Pavlov work you mentioned.

Again, you're intelligent enough to sort out the actual garbage to ignore or discard as you will.

This is all free for download, much of it donated by the original authors or copyrights have expired, depending on...

There's a healthy dose of Femdom stuff there also, just because you look like you might be a natural. (BTW gentlemen bystanders need to understand the significance of what's going on here. I suggest that now is the time to either accept, support or if you are intimidated perhaps to "gird your loins.")

 

This is powerful stuff so I expect a cut if you use it to take over the planet or anything, but if you break your husband I disclaim all responsibility. You don't always have to spend so much when you're sitting in the middle of a library to rival those in ancient Alexandria., LOL

https://archive.org/details/folkscanomy_sexuality

https://archive.org/search.php?query=hypnosis%2C hypnotherapy&and[]=mediatype%3A"texts"

https://ia800800.us.archive.org/2/items/TheManipulatedMind/TheManipulatedMind-DeniseWinn.pdf

https://archive.org/details/TheMaleBrainABreakthroughUnderstandingOfHowMenAndBoysThink

https://ia800100.us.archive.org/23/items/TechniquesOfPleasureBdsmAndTheCircuitsOfSexuality/TechniquesOfPleasure-MargotWeiss.pdf

https://archive.org/details/EroticFetishismSexualMethodsAndTechniques/page/n1

https://archive.org/details/LookIntoMyEyes_201709

https://ia800601.us.archive.org/16/items/IntroducingNero-linguisticProgramming/IntroducingNero-linguisticProgramming.pdf

https://archive.org/details/MindControlHypnosis

https://archive.org/details/TheDominantFemale-HowToTrainAHusband

https://archive.org/details/YesMaam

https://archive.org/details/TheLovingDominant

https://archive.org/details/FemdomAndBrainwashingTechniques

https://archive.org/details/TheEroticMind

https://archive.org/details/folkscanomy_sexuality?&sort=-downloads&page=3

 

 

 

[secondjag]

lol, quite the scholarly approach PartyReady.  impressive

[secondjag]

if you go through all the vids I have put up (don't ask me where, I have posted a lot), you'll find a lot of hypnotic stuff, a few perhaps real, all fun.

[Guest SandL]

25 minutes ago, secondjag said:

any cuckold i have known would have killed to have a wife like you baby.  for them, it was years of trying to bring the wife into it.

always amazing to find the wife who had the first desire and drive to make it happen

Awwwww you say the sweetest things  Looking back, if I had know then what I knew now...we wouldn’t have had to start out the way we did with me betraying him. If I could pick one thing to redo in my life it would be that. I still hate it. I used to think that my affair was the only way for this lifestyle thing to start. But I was wrong. Knowing now what i know about us, I wouldn’t have had to...I’m sure of it. I’m not saying we would have ended up here for sure...but i think we would have. At the very least I wanted a different kind of sex than we were having...and even without the affair, I think i would have eventually started to talk about it. Regardless, I still feel guilt about it...but however we got here...we’re exactly where we should be  and we’re both loving it! 

Thanks daddy! 

[secondjag]

1 minute ago, SandL said:

Awwwww you say the sweetest things  Looking back, if I had know then what I knew now...we wouldn’t have had to start out the way we did with me betraying him. If I could pick one thing to redo in my life it would be that. I still hate it. I used to think that my affair was the only way for this lifestyle thing to start. But I was wrong. Knowing now what i know about us, I wouldn’t have had to...I’m sure of it. I’m not saying we would have ended up here for sure...but i think we would have. At the very least I wanted a different kind of sex than we were having...and even without the affair, I think i would have eventually started to talk about it. Regardless, I still feel guilt about it...but however we got here...we’re exactly where we should be  and we’re both loving it! 

Thanks daddy! 

You are most welcome baby.  Now, give up the guilt.  It happened the way it happened.  Let it go, Steve has (further evidence that you have a great guy and a perfect partner on this journey). It is what is in front of you that is important. It's a cliche for a reason, "life is too short.  when you are dead a million years, you are just beginning to be dead."  Enjoy it now! 😈

[Guest SandL]

32 minutes ago, PartyReadyCpl said:

Awesome! When you fine tune your script you're going to be dangerous.

I've run across a lot of books on these subjects recently, For some reason I can't find the bookmarks that address what you're reading directly but if you look around some I;m confident you'll find those.

However what you're doing borders on mind control, guided imagery, NLP , hypnosis, and such. don't be put off by any "pseudo science" labels. You're a smart lady so you should be able to find the relevant links that relate to the "real science" you're reading. You'll also find connections to the seduction, flirting and dating categories, and the CIA and NSA archives that are here as well. At first blush if might appear unrelated however if you take the time to dabble a bit some of it is nearly word for word as most or many of the authors do reference back to prior science such as the Pavlov work you mentioned.

Again, you're intelligent enough to sort out the actual garbage to ignore or discard as you will.

This is all free for download, much of it donated by the original authors or copyrights have expired, depending on...

There's a healthy dose of Femdom stuff there also, just because you look like you might be a natural. (BTW gentlemen bystanders need to understand the significance of what's going on here. I suggest that now is the time to either accept, support or if you are intimidated perhaps to "gird your loins.")

 

This is powerful stuff so I expect a cut if you use it to take over the planet or anything, but if you break your husband I disclaim all responsibility. You don't always have to spend so much when you're sitting in the middle of a library to rival those in ancient Alexandria., LOL

https://archive.org/details/folkscanomy_sexuality

https://archive.org/search.php?query=hypnosis%2C hypnotherapy&and[]=mediatype%3A"texts"

https://ia800800.us.archive.org/2/items/TheManipulatedMind/TheManipulatedMind-DeniseWinn.pdf

https://archive.org/details/TheMaleBrainABreakthroughUnderstandingOfHowMenAndBoysThink

https://ia800100.us.archive.org/23/items/TechniquesOfPleasureBdsmAndTheCircuitsOfSexuality/TechniquesOfPleasure-MargotWeiss.pdf

https://archive.org/details/EroticFetishismSexualMethodsAndTechniques/page/n1

https://archive.org/details/LookIntoMyEyes_201709

https://ia800601.us.archive.org/16/items/IntroducingNero-linguisticProgramming/IntroducingNero-linguisticProgramming.pdf

https://archive.org/details/MindControlHypnosis

https://archive.org/details/TheDominantFemale-HowToTrainAHusband

https://archive.org/details/YesMaam

https://archive.org/details/TheLovingDominant

https://archive.org/details/FemdomAndBrainwashingTechniques

https://archive.org/details/TheEroticMind

https://archive.org/details/folkscanomy_sexuality?&sort=-downloads&page=3

 

 

 

What the??? 😂 A few comments on what you wrote. First of all, thank you for reading and responding. That was an interesting take on me and my husband. But dangerous?? I don’t want to be dangerous!!! I want to be a loving wife who knows what makes her and her husband happy.

Also, I don’t like calling what we’re doing “mind control”. I guess you could take it that way....but it was a big step for me to call it conditioning! I don’t want to control Steve’s mind...I just want to “lead” us to where we can both enjoy our sex life in all its different facets.  

And femdom ??? Not exactly sure what all of that entails. Now, knowing how easily my mind has been influenced...I’m a little afraid to look into it! I better stay away from that 😂. 

Now “taking over the world”...that sounds like something I can get behind! 😂 But not likely. I’m a bit of a nobody in most of my circles...in reality, Steve is the real star that everyone wants to talk to...but its a nice thought! I better practice my evil laugh MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 😂 

Finally, breaking Steve is the last thing I want to do. In every area except sex, he’s the total leader. Truly. I like it that way. He makes me feel safe and protected and provided for and loved. i don’t want to change any of that. Break him? I want to build him up! 

But I really do appreciate what you wrote...and i loved that you called me smart!  And I will look into all the links you gave me! 

Leslie   

 

[Guest SandL]

6 minutes ago, secondjag said:

You are most welcome baby.  Now, give up the guilt.  It happened the way it happened.  Let it go, Steve has (further evidence that you have a great guy and a perfect partner on this journey). It is what is in front of you that is important. It's a cliche for a reason, "life is too short.  when you are dead a million years, you are just beginning to be dead."  Enjoy it now! 😈

Thanks daddy and thanks for saying what you did about Steve. He’s everything and more that you said  Now tell me what a big black guy like you would need to hear from a little white girl like me, in a subtle way, that I want you.   

[secondjag]

Just now, SandL said:

Thanks daddy and thanks for saying what you did about Steve. He’s everything and more that you said  Now tell me what a big black guy like you would need to hear from a little white girl like me, in a subtle way, that I want you.   

lol, angel, no need for subtlety, just let me know my baby needs dick 😈  don't know about other "bulls" but I have a "thing" about my cum.  I can NOT stand to see it wasted so cuck or wife must clean up. 

[Guest SandL]

Well, I can’t stand to see it wasted either  So I would have no problem making sure you’re all cleaned up 👅 

[secondjag]

1 minute ago, SandL said:

Well, I can’t stand to see it wasted either  So I would have no problem making sure you’re all cleaned up 👅 

lol, like i said, SUCH A GOOD GIRL

[Guest SandL]

Just now, secondjag said:

lol, like i said, SUCH A GOOD GIRL

I just love hearing that  

[PartyReadyCpl]

30 minutes ago, SandL said:

What the??? 😂 A few comments on what you wrote. First of all, thank you for reading and responding. That was an interesting take on me and my husband. But dangerous?? I don’t want to be dangerous!!! I want to be a loving wife who knows what makes her and her husband happy.

Also, I don’t like calling what we’re doing “mind control”. I guess you could take it that way....but it was a big step for me to call it conditioning! I don’t want to control Steve’s mind...I just want to “lead” us to where we can both enjoy our sex life in all its different facets.  

And femdom ??? Not exactly sure what all of that entails. Now, knowing how easily my mind has been influenced...I’m a little afraid to look into it! I better stay away from that 😂. 

Now “taking over the world”...that sounds like something I can get behind! 😂 But not likely. I’m a bit of a nobody in most of my circles...in reality, Steve is the real star that everyone wants to talk to...but its a nice thought! I better practice my evil laugh MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 😂 

Finally, breaking Steve is the last thing I want to do. In every area except sex, he’s the total leader. Truly. I like it that way. He makes me feel safe and protected and provided for and loved. i don’t want to change any of that. Break him? I want to build him up! 

But I really do appreciate what you wrote...and i loved that you called me smart!  And I will look into all the links you gave me! 

Leslie   

 

Yeah, I was afraid you might get distracted by some of the titles. Just because some use the term "Mind Control" is no cause for alarm. You're promising to use your power for Good so I trust you. Now, it's not the case in most of these but sometimes that means "control of your own mind" ) I neglected to include "self hypnosis" and "self improvement" partly because we're getting ready to go out and because I'm making huge posts all the time and I'm trying not to look like an ass.

BTW, I fully understand about the duality of your husband, IMO he represents what everyone calls an "alpha" which at first blush doesn't seem to fit unless you look a little closer and realize it takes a lot of self-confidence to assume that role even in play. You are incredibly good at talking dirty and also at writing it down so descriptively. What's special about it more than that is you still sound incredibly feminine at the same time you're piloting the dialog. I'm truly impressed because there are porn actresses that attempt that and can't pull it off. What you're doing in this instance is a sort of archetype called a "hypnodomme".

You really went beyond that because you jumped directly from reading Pavlov along with the other conditioning stuff and connecting it with what you were doing. Wow... I would have missed it if you hadn't pointed that out. Do you realize that extending that just a little bit forward you're not far from being able to do the same thing without touching him at all? BTW, almost the exact same technique can be used to train one's self or one's wife to achieve orgasm from nipple stimulation. I'd forgotten about that but I remembered reading about it over 25 years ago. I didn't consider it then but understand the mechanism now because you provided the background and science. Another potential pitfall here might be my use of the term "~~domme" but the way you're doing it is very non-threatening and dominance isn't a firmly defined thing, it's a spectrum, or a scale. Have you heard the term "gentle dom or caring dom"? The other end of the spectrum from the outwardly cruel or uncaring archetype. I do a similar thing with a slow, smoldering light spanking but hadn't thought about conditioning for a physical response at all. (thanks!)  It can be more like I'm a benevolent inquisitor asking some really dirty, personal questions but they respond differently than they would if I was using hard slaps rather than the occasional light tap. This can leave room for an implied possibility of a harder smack but I'm giving guidance rather than doling out punishment. More playfulness, less violence... smoldering without bursting into flame. Anyone can be mean and sure, that can be fun. But it's different.

So... see what you did? You were in control without coming off as "bossy" ans although you were taking and saying the things you knew would illicit a response, you also used non-verbal communication to get feedback from him so you could vary pace and pressure to make the timing "just so".

Impressive on so many levels.... respect!

[Guest SandL]

3 minutes ago, PartyReadyCpl said:

Yeah, I was afraid you might get distracted by some of the titles. Just because some use the term "Mind Control" is no cause for alarm. You're promising to use your power for Good so I trust you. Now, it's not the case in most of these but sometimes that means "control of your own mind" ) I neglected to include "self hypnosis" and "self improvement" partly because we're getting ready to go out and because I'm making huge posts all the time and I'm trying not to look like an ass.

BTW, I fully understand about the duality of your husband, IMO he represents what everyone calls an "alpha" which at first blush doesn't seem to fit unless you look a little closer and realize it takes a lot of self-confidence to assume that role even in play. You are incredibly good at talking dirty and also at writing it down so descriptively. What's special about it more than that is you still sound incredibly feminine at the same time you're piloting the dialog. I'm truly impressed because there are porn actresses that attempt that and can't pull it off. What you're doing in this instance is a sort of archetype called a "hypnodomme".

You really went beyond that because you jumped directly from reading Pavlov along with the other conditioning stuff and connecting it with what you were doing. Wow... I would have missed it if you hadn't pointed that out. Do you realize that extending that just a little bit forward you're not far from being able to do the same thing without touching him at all? BTW, almost the exact same technique can be used to train one's self or one's wife to achieve orgasm from nipple stimulation. I'd forgotten about that but I remembered reading about it over 25 years ago. I didn't consider it then but understand the mechanism now because you provided the background and science. Another potential pitfall here might be my use of the term "~~domme" but the way you're doing it is very non-threatening and dominance isn't a firmly defined thing, it's a spectrum, or a scale. Have you heard the term "gentle dom or caring dom"? The other end of the spectrum from the outwardly cruel or uncaring archetype. I do a similar thing with a slow, smoldering light spanking but hadn't thought about conditioning for a physical response at all. (thanks!)  It can be more like I'm a benevolent inquisitor asking some really dirty, personal questions but they respond differently than they would if I was using hard slaps rather than the occasional light tap. This can leave room for an implied possibility of a harder smack but I'm giving guidance rather than doling out punishment. More playfulness, less violence... smoldering without bursting into flame. Anyone can be mean and sure, that can be fun. But it's different.

So... see what you did? You were in control without coming off as "bossy" ans although you were taking and saying the things you knew would illicit a response, you also used non-verbal communication to get feedback from him so you could vary pace and pressure to make the timing "just so".

Impressive on so many levels.... respect!

Okay wowzers! 😂 Thank you for clarifying for me, because now I don’t feel so evil! 😂 And thanks for all the compliments...not sure I’m deserving, but I appreciate it anyway! I’m really just feeling my way, with some help from friends and what I’m reading...they deserve the real thanks . 

Talking dirty is fun for me. I think because its so out of character for me. Not sure. But the writing down is equally fun. I know that Steve is going to read it...so that’s fun for both of us. Sometimes when I tell him I’m going to write something, he texts me “are you done yet?” “I don’t see it posted yet.” 😂 But I like to relive it...and its also kind of a way of playing in front of others in a really safe way! It also works to get us ready for our first swing event...I think. But also, writing and interacting with people who read it is very instructive...like with you, right now. And it also helps to break Steve out of his bubble a bit. He’d actually be writing more right now if he wasn’t so busy...at least that’s what he says. 🤔 

And thanks for the feminine comment. I grew up on a farm and used to hunt with my dad...so feeling feminine and being noticed for it is a big deal to me! Thanks! I think that’s one of the reasons I like being with Robert so much. He is so manly and makes me feel so much like a woman. Steve does too....just in a different way. 

Hypnodomme???? Never heard of that either. Your knowledge on this stuff is way more extensive than mine! I’ll look into it  

Anywho...thanks for the compliments and the clarifications! Would love to talk more with you  

 

[secondjag]

21 hours ago, SandL said:

Okay wowzers! 😂 Thank you for clarifying for me, because now I don’t feel so evil! 😂 And thanks for all the compliments...not sure I’m deserving, but I appreciate it anyway! I’m really just feeling my way, with some help from friends and what I’m reading...they deserve the real thanks . 

Talking dirty is fun for me. I think because its so out of character for me. Not sure. But the writing down is equally fun. I know that Steve is going to read it...so that’s fun for both of us. Sometimes when I tell him I’m going to write something, he texts me “are you done yet?” “I don’t see it posted yet.” 😂 But I like to relive it...and its also kind of a way of playing in front of others in a really safe way! It also works to get us ready for our first swing event...I think. But also, writing and interacting with people who read it is very instructive...like with you, right now. And it also helps to break Steve out of his bubble a bit. He’d actually be writing more right now if he wasn’t so busy...at least that’s what he says. 🤔 

And thanks for the feminine comment. I grew up on a farm and used to hunt with my dad...so feeling feminine and being noticed for it is a big deal to me! Thanks! I think that’s one of the reasons I like being with Robert so much. He is so manly and makes me feel so much like a woman. Steve does too....just in a different way. 

Hypnodomme???? Never heard of that either. Your knowledge on this stuff is way more extensive than mine! I’ll look into it  

Anywho...thanks for the compliments and the clarifications! Would love to talk more with you  

 

a farm girl, eh?  must have been a fox farm. 😜

[Guest SandL]

1 hour ago, secondjag said:

a farm girl, eh?  must have been a fox farm. 😜

Fox?? Hmmmm 😂 Thanks daddy but those things we shot! 😁

[secondjag]

1 minute ago, SandL said:

Fox?? Hmmmm 😂 Thanks daddy but those things we shot! 😁

hmm, i'm an animal lover so I can't be joking about that.  besides, my favorite animal is pussy

[Guest SandL]

22 minutes ago, secondjag said:

hmm, i'm an animal lover so I can't be joking about that.  besides, my favorite animal is pussy

I love animals too. We would only do that to protect our animals. Have you seen what a wolf does to livestock? They kill as many as they can...not for food...just to kill. They’re beautiful and we would try to scare them away first but if they kept threatening or if they got some of ours we would have to...ormthey would just keep coming back until they killed all of them. 

Pussy, huh? You like to pet them?  

[secondjag]

1 minute ago, SandL said:

I love animals too. We would only do that to protect our animals. Have you seen what a wolf does to livestock? They kill as many as they can...not for food...just to kill. They’re beautiful and we would try to scare them away first but if they kept threatening or if they got some of ours we would have to...ormthey would just keep coming back until they killed all of them. 

Pussy, huh? You like to pet them?  

prob the wrong place for this discussion.  but i do like petting, licking, pussy.

[Kaktuscpl]

19 minutes ago, secondjag said:

prob the wrong place for this discussion.  but i do like petting, licking, pussy.

Another thing we have in common Jag...LOL

[secondjag]

1 minute ago, Kaktuscpl said:

Another thing we have in common Jag...LOL

Makes life worth living Kak, worth living. 

[Kaktuscpl]

Yes Sir......sure does