Molly J

Louise and UK guy - sounds like you guys have a good thing going. Wish you the best. Bob, James and I are headed for Puerto Rico tomorrow for about a week. Then we are back for the start of school for me on the 7th. James will meet us at the airport and we'll all fly to PR on the same flight. REALLY looking forward to the trip. Got a new bikini just for the trip. Actually got two, one red and one white. I modified the white one by removing the lining in both the bottoms and the top. Now when it is wet it sort of gets transparent. Can't wait to wear it on the beach and get it wet. M

Bryan (aka UK guy) is, imho, a genuinely nice guy. At least from what I know of him on here. He gave me probably more help and useful encouragement than anyone else when I was looking for information. So glad you have found each other and I really don't think you or Pete will ever reqret hooking up with him. Think he is a cuckold but obviously can play another roll. Just goes to show that we all have different boats to float. Quicky on my relationships - James is travelling, Bob has been here with me for a while, Mom and I will have Christmas together with a few friends here. Not a lot to tell about sexual activities for a while. We are thinkng about Bob, James and me going to the Carribbean after Christmas for a few days to sort of celebrate. James is from PR originally and knows the good places. Will let you know. M

I am really glad you and the UK guy have hit it off so well. And that Pete approves. You seem like the sort of the loving couple that can roll with any turn of events and I am so glad that this has turned out well for all three of you. UK guy IS one of the sweetest guys I've met on here and wish him and you all the best. Loving is part of it but so is, and perhaps equally so, loving to fuck someone who really knows how. Best wishes for the holidays and beyond! M

Hi UK guy, Will have to look up that thread about you and Louise. Sounds like you're gonna have fun. And thanks for the well wishes. And I hope you have a wonderful holiday season. You are a sweet guy. And thanks to Louise. Glad you and I agree about each being different and want different things from relationships. Wish everyone understood that sentiment. M

Wow - long time no contact. I'm at home with my Mom & no one else. Bob snd james are back where we usually are and I am home with my Mom. After finishing exams, we did party. Lots of very satisfying sex - for everyone and some interesting suggestions from James with agreement from Bob - maybe me too. More about that later - maybe. Anyway I owe Leone a reply. Black cocks vs white I think you were asking about. My experience is limited but James is a lot longer though not as thick or big around so doesn't spread me as much but, boy does he ever reach the depths. He is soooo long. I love to deep throat him. Once I learned to relax and let him just go down it was a real turn on - for both of us. But I can tell when he "bottoms out" in my pussy as he says. He hits the back of my vagina again and again and that just is sooooo erotic for me. Bob doesn't do that but he does spread me more and I feel his cock rubbing my clit more so it's exciting as well. Ptobably doesn't answer your question but that's it for now. Thanks guys for hanging in with me. M

Here's a quick update for those interested. Things are going pretty well considering my schedule which means not much time for playing. Spent most of last week studying and got two finals out of the way on Fri and Sat. Three more to go next week so not much more time to play until after Wednesday. Then Wooooooo Hooooooo – watch out world !!! Anyway, bob and I spent most nights in bed snuggling and actually sleeping. We did celebrate with James Saturday late by going out to a local spot for a while, then home where I could not not give in. James and I had some phenomenal sex – sort of a sexual release after the intense week of trying to get ready for the exams. Bob was with us and participated in a passive sort of way. That's all that I have time for now. More later. For the question from Leone on black -vs- white cocks - I'll have to address that question in some detail after I have time to think about it. Thanks for the well wishes of those in the Molly support group. They are appreciated a bunch! M

Dancer - NO - this is serious. I have banned all sex for the next two plus weeks in this household. The guys don't have to worry about grades but I do. And that means I study. I need to keep grades up to maintain my scholarship. So far so good. Thanks Tex - I think you understand. And I must resist getting back on here for more than a few minutes for the next while.. M

Thanks Upstart and UK guy. And Dancer (like that better than WD I think), I will admit that your advice and comments regarding the dom/sub, superior/inferior relationships were a help in my understanding of what different participants want from the cuckold lifestyle. They helped me understand where Bob is coming (no pun intended) from as well as the options available to the female; i.e. not necessarily dom or sub to any of the other participants but open to all possibilities. That is going to have to do it for me for a while. I've got finals coming up and lots of study time necessary. Thanks to all who have posted on my two threads and for the interesting comments, good advice, and well wishes. I will stay in touch, just not as often for a while. M

Not sure exactly who Desert Bull wants to fuck - but whatever floats your boat I guess. WD - thanks - knew you'd like the pic. And your advice and comments were right on. As to the anal thing - still a virgin there but thinking about it. Thanks for everything!! Bonofox and tex - thanks for the comments. I agree.

For those who may be interested in how the “newbie” is progressing in this new relationship, here's an update. If you're not familiar with the situation, after getting a lot of helpful advice on this forum, I recently agreed to cuck my BF, at his request. We sort of sealed the deal this long Thanksgiving weekend. I guess I'm beginning to see how the relationships work to raise the erotic thermometer for all participants. I resisted, at first, any suggestion that the one cucked, my BF, should be considered inferior or submissive but, basically, that was not the way I should have looked at it. More, it should have been more a “what does he want the relationship to be”. Having said that, he still is not inferior or submissive in any way except in the cuckold, sexual, relationships. And even then it is because that's his choice, not because it is being forced on him. And I am sure he knows I still love him just as much and I know he does me too. My relationship with James, our dominant male in this triangle, is one of just plain unadulterated fantastic sex. He is by far the best lover I've ever been with, not that there have been that many. He just knows what I want, when I want it, and does it sooooo well. I don't love James, I just love sex with him. He knows this and I'm sure the feeling is mutual. Over the long weekend, James stayed at our place until last night. Both he and Bob had to get up and go to work today. Bob has been present in the room for all of our sexual encounters and has participated in most of them, though he has not fucked me since early last week. I have no idea how many times I was fucked by James nor how many times I came over these four nights and days. I have had orgasms from Bob's mouth, James cock and mouth, as well as just from being touched in the right places at the right times. James and Bob have cum in my mouth, in my pussy, and over most of my body at one time or another. While I am not submissive in the least and do not normally like or want to “loose control”, there are times, in the heat of frantic sex, when I willingly do let go. It just feels soooo damn good. I've told both, Bob and James, that I am not responsible for anything I say, do, or agree to, when in the throws of fantastic sex. I apparently did agree to a couple of things when James was fucking me and egging me on and telling me what he was going to do to me and didn't I want him to and so on. Some of that I later had to renege on and they both know now that I may say anything during super good sex, but any thing I agree to is null and void in the aftermath. OK – that's enough for now. I think we three have it worked out pretty well. For those who were concerned about potential STD's, I think we are OK there as well. Both Bob and James have recently been tested and I haven't been with anyone else, without a condom, for a very long time. And to those who gave me so much help in the beginning, here's another pic. Hope you like this one. It's just a bit more revealing. M

Thanks, all, for the recent commments and advice. Especially like CB's pull no punches comments about anal and my other concern with it. Have always wondered abou the potential mess. I think this thread is becoming a bit tired so am gonna sign off of it now. The title is not completely applicable any longer. I'll start a new one for anyfuture updates. Probably won't happen until after this weekend at the soonest. I'm looking forward to an extremely long weekend and, as WD so delicately put it, to getting "stuffed" for the holidays. I do want to thank everyone who has commented on this thread for their extremely helpful advice and, I believe, genuine concern for my wellbeing and future in this lifestyle. WD, Pat, UK guy, and now CB, as well as several others have been more than generous in sharing their experiences and experience based advice with a Newbie. Still a Newbie, but no longer "not sure about it". Thanks guys. M

Thanks WD. Doubt we'd need any extra lubricant though.

Thanks Mike. Won't use WD again after Bob told me what WD40 is. Of course it is a lubricant. Sorry. And no - no one has fucked "that tempting ass" - yet anyway. Not into that but am told it can be rewarding. I just think it hurts. Crap - why am I on this thing now - I have other stuff that has to get done, But thanks for the comments. M

Positive feedback is much appreciated! Thanks Guys - and especially Pat.

Thanks for the interest and comments guys. For the record here's where this relationship is at the moment. Bob and I talked a good bit on Thursday after he got home about what's happened. He was glad that I had enjoyed my time with James and knew that we would get together at his place this weekend. We were both so tired Thursday night that all we did was snuggle together and fall asleep holding each other. Then Friday we talked more and Bob (I know he had been talking with James) was suggesting that, since I enjoyed James so much, maybe he should sort of stand aside and let James call the shots on what sort of sex we, Bob and I, had. I just said “Let me think about it.” Then that night I actually pretty much seduced him. He was all “don't you think we should slow this down and wait a while” and like that. I'm whispering how much I love him, want him, and like that. This with him on his back sort of pushing me away and me kissing & touching him all over, eventually taking him in my mouth and getting him REALLY hard. I've said he's not small and he's not, though definitely not as long as James, he fills me pretty well. So with him still on his back I straddle him and sit on his cock and just basically r******** him. He was, eventually, soooo turned on!! Me too for that matter. We fucked for about 10 minutes before we both came, then, with him still inside me, we rested for maybe 5 minutes and then I started started moving back and forth and we were off again. This time he flipped me over and really screwed me royally. No hesitation at all which is unusual for him. This time it took maybe 15 or 20 minutes before he came while I had several orgasims over the same period. When we'd finished we rolled over again with me on top, kissing him over and over and telling him how much I loved sex with him. It really was probably the best sex we've had together in a long time. Then I asked. “You sure you want to give this up for a while?” He just grinned, shook his head, no, and said - “lady, you are something else.” I was quite pleased with myself. Now I've spent all weekend with James and have a lot better idea of where he is coming from. He buys into the superior “bull” thing that is voiced by many on this site. Make the cuckold submit and be totally secondary to the “bull's” preferences, including when and where and with whom I have sex. I pretty well set him straight on where I was coming from – we three are partners in this, no superior, inferior relationships and for sure, I and only I decide who the hell I will fuck and when. Think I sort of shocked him with my intensity. Told him that sex with him was phenominal but I don't take orders from anyone and Bob is either a full partner in our relationship or there won't be any more. After lots of discussions he agreed to my terms. Bob will be present for all future get togethers. If he wants sex all he has to do is ask and, while the time must be agreeable to me and Bob, we'll do it. So – had a GREAT weekend and think we have a mutual understanding now. Enough for now. We'll see how things progress. James may come over again on Wednesday. Will update later. ps – we cleared up the posting of my pics as well. At the risk of sounding immodest, I think I look pretty good and don't mind posting my pictures. I get sort of a turn on from it. Anyway, made sure he understood that I did it because I wanted to, and because he asked, but not just because he wanted it. Enough! M

Waiting on James to pick me up. Going out someplace tonight then to his place for the night. May have some issues to deal with with him. Had some with Bob but think we've worked through those now. More later. M

Thanks Doc and Upstart and, of course, WD. Still getting good advice. I can use all I can get. But things do seem to be progressing favorably. WD – James actually has an account on this site though I don't know what he is called. Anyway he asked for more pics even though he's seen others of me before. I sort of think he has a sense of ownership, well maybe not ownership but something. Don't know how to say what I want to say – don't want to offend him but – for whatever reason he seemed to want me to share my pics. As to the title of this thread, perhaps I should start another – “Still a Newbie but now pretty sure”.

Again - thank you to everyone who posted on my thread and gave me such good advice. I really do appreciate it. Well, I did it. Or WE did it. James left about an hour ago and Bob just left. They both have to work today but I'm not sure how they will make it. We were all up most of the night. I have a class later this afternoon and will probably be ok. Here's what happened. James picked me up around 8 last night and we went out to a restaurant/bar that he likes. I wore a short backless, black dress, thigh highs, a necklace, and heels. We had dinner, did a little dancing, had some interesting discussions about exhibitionists (he knows that side of me) & voyeurs and other topics over a bottle of wine. When we got back to our apartment Bob was watching TV and drinking a beer. James and I sat on the couch across from Bob, talked a little bit about how our “date” had gone. We shared a beer while trying to keep from rushing off to the bedroom. After about 20 minutes of this I told them I was ready to do this thing. We all adjourned to the bedroom. James turned me to him and kissed me so tenderly and sexily and for such a long time, inching my dress up to my waist and then off of me completely. Bob went over to the side of the room and sat in a chair and watched us. With my dress off I only had the thigh highs, necklace, and heels on. While James by now knew that I didn't have anything else on, I think Bob was a little surprised. I pushed back a bit and pulled James shirt over his head and, while James's hands roamed, I undid his belt, pulled his pants down and he stepped out of them. I was on my knees and looking at a beautiful sight. A semi erect penis that was growing as I reached for it. James isn't really black, more chocolate in color and is quite well built. His penis was darker that the rest of him but as it grew it became paler. I know this may not seem important to anyone else, but it was to me. I had never before seen a nude black man in person so “up close and personal”. I took him in my mouth and was surprised at how long he became. He was not terribly thick but was VERY long, at least to me. Maybe 8 to 10 inches, though I didn't measure it. He certainly reached parts of me that haven't ever been reached before. OK this is getting too long so I'll try to wrap it up quickly. Suffice to say that we had some really, really good sex, particularly after the first time he came in me. After that Bob left the room and things got considerably better. Bob told me later that he left because he thought he was “cramping our style”. Maybe he was correct because after that, James just became the most intuitive lover ever. I usually have to sort of guide the guys I've been with before which detracts from the whole experience. Well, with James I did not do any guiding. It was like he knew exactly what I wanted him to do at exactly the right time and then would do what I wanted him to do but didn't know I wanted him to do, if that makes sense. We did not get much (any?) sleep for the rest of the night. I lost count of the number of times I came, and was pretty amazed at James's stamina. I talked with Bob this morning before he left and he seems happy with the way it went. James and I made plans to get together again this weekend, maybe alone at his place this time. Bob says he still wants to be present sometimes but will wait a bit longer before he does. I told him I thought it would be a turn on to have him join in at some point. That may or may not happen. For whatever reason he did not seem overly enthused with that idea but we'll see. Anyway, that's the way it went. I'm glad we did it and think we definitely got the right guy to do it with and am looking forward to the weekend. Per James's request, here is another pic of me. Not sure why I bother with the mask thingy. M

Thanks for all the recent comments, I really appreciate them. But I don't think I will be back on until after Wednesday. Things are fusy here and I am really just too involved in getting ready and other stuff. Life goes on. Gotta go shopping for a new dress. Just don't have anything suitable for - whatever. James is going to take me out to dinner before returning to my apt. Bob will be waiting on us there. I'll update after the deed is done. M

Thanks Pat and WD - Pat, You really are an attractive lady! And WD - still definitely a Newbie, just a little less unsure. M

Hi Pat - yes, I haven't been able to get on much - been busy. Then tonight seemed to have a prob with the website. But - update - so. BF (I'n gonna call him Bob and our friend James (inane I know but not real names)) and I had dinner with James on Wed and had a very honest discussion about what we are planning. He is agreeable to do this and to our conditions - one time only until we re-evaluate, no one does anything anyone else objects to, Bob is gona be there and will watch, will do it at our place, and a few other things. James is not available this weekend so prob next Wed night will be soonest. I am begining to really feel - I don't know - really ready. Actually looking forward to it and seeing if it is going to be as good as adveritsed. Bob is ready - he says. We actually sat in a booth at the restaurant with James beside me and Bob opposite. James put his arm around me and kissed me once but otherwise was a gentleman. Still sort of a turn on for this southern girl to be in a restaurant and be kissed by a black man in public. No big deal other places but could be here. Bob was fine with it. Enough - more later. Will definitely update on Thursday. Thanks for all the help. M

Thanks UK guy - i really appreciate all the help from you and others. M

I just re-read some of the posts and want to especially thank Pat for her considerate comments. They, as much as any, helped me make up my mind. And if that is you in that pic - no wonder you attract other men - WOW! While I'm not into women, if I were - well ....!! M

WOW! Such a lot of good information and advice. I am really glad my BF showed me this site. Don't think he is a member here but may be. Most of you guys are so experienced in this it is not too surprising that you like it. Otherwise you wouldn't do it, but it is encouraging to know how it can be an enjoyable long term lifestyle with enjoyable and pleasurable relationships. There is soooo much good information in the posts from just about all of you, especially Wavedancer & UK-EX. Especially appreciate the input from Dee Dee and Pat, though to hear of their experiences is a bit intimidating – but not in a bad way – just amazed at their openness and apparent enthusiasm about the number of men they have been with. Their husbands must be pretty exceptional as well, and love them a lot. Dee Dee, the pictures you posted of the black man's cock, compared to your hubby's – wow. Surely all black men are not that big. I really don't think I could take one that big. My BF is really not that small but certainly isn't that large. He thinks he's very small but I really don't. He is just sort of shy and maybe inexperienced but is really considerate to a fault. The first time we had sex, I initiated it and he apologized for his (perceived) smallness before he even undressed. Actually, I think, while size matters, technique is much more important, So – he's not terribly small but he is very tentative in lovemaking. He knows this so I'm not embarrassing him here. In all other respects, he is a hunk. He is a personal trainer and his clients love him. He's a little older than me and played football in HS and college and has kept in shape since. These responses to my post have been so helpful. And encouraging. We have been talking about this for some time now, maybe a couple of months, and with the information I've gotten here I think I want to try it – with boundaries and a full understanding by all parties of what we are gong to do in advance. We plan to go out to dinner with our friend this weekend and discuss it fully before it happens and with the understanding that if any of us is uncomfortable with anything before or after we'll call a halt. Wish me luck. Wavedancer – thanks for the complement on my profile pic. As you can tell, I do have exhibitionist tendencies. I'll try to post another from that same day. Molly

I've talked with my BF about how our relationship could be hurt if we did this but he says that he thinks it could only get better. I know he loves me so don't THINK that would change. There is a lot more to a relationship than just good sex (or not so good). As to my question about does he have to be a bull, I just don't like that term. Seems like someone called a bull would be so domineering that it wouldn't be a good thing. My BF works with a really cool black guy who seems really nice and he is the one I'd probably do it with. So I know him and he is a friend of both of us and he does seem to like me so think he would do it. My BF says he thinks I'm hot. He supposedly is really well endowed, so it is sort of intriguing to me to find out what it would be like with him. When you say set boundaries, what exactly do you mean – boundaries for the relationship with the new guy or with my BF or both – both I guess. Like I don't want to get preg by him or anyone else yet but the pill should take care of that. And don't want any STD's, but think this guy we are thinking about is ok. As to what sort of sex to have, I'm pretty open (no pun intended) to anything. I really don't think I'd like to fuck with a guy with a condom on but guess it could be ok. I'm not a virgin (obvioulsy) and have had sex with several other guys before meeting my BF and it was pretty good but none of them were particularly well endowed or very accomplished lovers. So let me stop rambling on. I really appreciate the advice. My BF has seen the comments from my post and thinks the advice is right on. Thanks guys. Would love to hear from women who are into this lifestyle too.