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11 hours ago, DomBull4U said:

Damn...this started off as a discussion about stereotypes in cuckoldry....and has veered off subject somewhat, hasn't it? I think so....yes.

 I'm not bitching about that...I'm not a member of the "conversation police". As far as I'm concerned, as long as people are having conversations along these lines...period...it's a good thing.

With that said....

About this domme thing. (Here we go...more confusing terminology and ideas.)

I think of a domme in more of a bdsm context, than in a cuckold situation. ALTHOUGH...there is certainly an element in cuckoldry where dommes exist. That being a totally submissive cuckold husband...where hubby is a slave to his wife/mistress domme. So yes, dommes come into play in certain cuckold situations.

So I guess my point is this...and I make no claims to being an expert...but.... 

As far as Leslie and Steve's relationship goes....I don't see Leslie as a domme. (Leslie...my dear Leslie...I hope this doesn't disappoint you. It shouldn't. Steve admits you are a princess, and I still think of you as a Queen...but not a domme). Not yet anyway....lol.

I see Leslie and Steve as a couple exploring the cuckold lifestyle together.

Lol...now, the way the conversation went between SandL and L's_husband...it ended up with L's_husband ABSOLUTELY getting nothing. I guess it's a good thing for L's_husband that Leslie ISN'T a domme...or he WOULD be getting something. A good spanking...lol.

DomBull4U

11 hours ago, DomBull4U said:

One last thought...completely out of left field...not even sure how it relates to any of this discussion....

I guess it ties in to the idea of a woman...or women in general...being domme....or in control.

A friend of my wife's had this T-shirt that spoke volumes where this concept of "control" is concerned.

It said......

I have the pussy, I make the rules!

Let's face it, men....it's hard to argue with that. 

I'm not sure where you'd get a shirt like that...with the internet, I'm sure one could be found.

(L's_husband....Steve....I think Leslie would LOVE one of those.)

Don't mean anything by that...just sayin'

DomBull4U

Thank you @DomBull4U for bringing the thread back on track.

I do agree with you that the terminology "domme" relates more to bdsm than to cuckoldry. However, I also think that a hotwife must feel empowered over her man by the fact that she can sleep around while he can't. And let me state my point clearly here: everybody can do whatever they want and whatever gets them off, but - in my humble opinion - a couple where BOTH have parterns outside the marriage/engagement is NOT living a cuckold lifestyle but "simply" an open marriage/relationship. I have come across people that are not in agreement with me on this...and they sure have valid arguments. I still stand my ground, in any case. So, coming back to the topic at hand here, there is a sort of "femdom" inside the very conccept of cuckoldry, in my opinion. That's probably why I would and could never take on the role of the man who lets her woman sleep with others: I'm too dominant to accept it.

As for the t-shirt... I've seen some similar in my country (I don't live in the USA). I disagree with that statement. Sure, if a man wants THAT pussy, the woman has almost illimited power. However:

1) if she's a woman bald enough to wear such a t-shirt, she wants a dick in that pussy just as much as the cock wants to be in her cunt; hence, the power is even.

2) if the man is simply looking for A pussy, not that specific one, the girl has no real power; sure, she can look for a different cock herself, but - once again - the power distrubition is even.

12 minutes ago, SandL said:

Hey!!!!! 🤬😡🤬

You gotta embrace the truth...you aren't a domme! At least, not YET! lol

2 minutes ago, L’s_Husband said:

I believe you called me, Sir. Ha

Steve

Just now, SandL said:

Ummmmmmmm you edited that! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 

Queen L!

Nope! No editing. I recall you doing it, too!

5 minutes ago, L’s_Husband said:

Wow. Glad we’re finally in agreement about the other women thing. I guess I’ll be home late. Don’t wait up for me. Lol

Steve

I guess this answers the domme thing too, @SandL! hahahahahahahaha

13 hours ago, SandL said:

Hmmmmm LET me respond? Thank you sir for LETTING me speak! 😉 I’ll admit that I’m not a domme.................yet. 😊. But like you said, there are “areas where I play the Queen”...shall I explain???? Hmmmmmmmm???? 😂 

Your sometimes Queen, 

L 😘😘

Yes, shou should explain! hahahahahaha

3 hours ago, SandL said:

I’m a total domme . Kidding...........................or am I???? 

💋 

We should ask your hubby lol

1 minute ago, captainblack said:

Porn sites do what they think will sell and with the various laws about internet porn these days it is a big and expensive effort start up a porn site.  I used to work in that industry, and that work came to an end due to various laws passed in the USA.

I forgot mention I had two cuck couples where the man wanted his wife to dominate him, but she was pretty much as submissive as he was, so it became a situation where I dominated them both, with her being my proxy often. In these cases I set up little daily rituals for the two of them that enforced in his mind that the power dynamic was ME -> Her -> him.

That's a pretty frequent dynamics I have noticed. Even the submissive cucks I've come across prefered to be subdued to their wives rather than to the bull. But the wives not always are dommes. So they act as "proxies", to use your words.

1 minute ago, captainblack said:

I am not black, I am average in size, but a very good lover and very long lasting (I went over 2 hours last weekend with a woman and she eventually begged to finish me with her mouth because her pussy was sore).  I have mostly not had the wife with the cuck in the same room, let alone the same building.  In my over 20 years being with other men's wives I have had only one man that wanted to watch.  I have had one that would drop her off and pick her up after.  The pickup was usually the three of us going to brunch together either Saturday or Sunday morning depending on if she spent Friday or Friday and Saturday with me.  Those brunches were interesting as he would finger her at the table to see how much of a load she had.

I have had multiple cucks that would speak with me on the phone after to see if she and I had a good time. 

I had one cuck who had ED.  So it is really all over the map.  For my own part I have never had a cuck who wanted to be humiliated, or do cleanup in front of me, but if I had a relationship with a couple where the cuck wanted that since I am a very creative dominant I could see some really interesting ways of interacting with a cuck that was into being dominated and humiliated.

 

Thank you for replying and sharing your valuable experience(s). In a way, you're upholding my point....which is that real cuck couples and their bulls are much more variegated than what is portratyed online. What stuns me is that such a variety is not represented MORE in dedicated porn sites.

On 3/13/2019 at 1:29 PM, addy said:

My wife being used last weekend

Lovely.

Just now, secondjag said:

rubbish, sorry

Surely possible. As I said, I have set data on which to base an opinion.

2 hours ago, SandL said:

That is really interesting. I’ve never found anything about that. Now that I think about it, it’s kinda weird I never considered it. It wouldn’t be for me, though 😂. I will say that my husband has a bit of an admirer and it drives me crazy jealous! 😂. But I’m getting better and I want him to do that if or when he wants to. She actually flirted with him right in front of me! Grrrrrr 😊. I’m not sure why but I guess because he’s more secure with himself than I am. Weird. But I’m hoping he doesn’t read your comment! 😂 Kidding. Sort of. 

I doubt he will miss it.... 😜

Cuckqueaning is not for everybody...just like cuckolding is not for everybody. It's all about expressing one's real self, within the boundaries that the couple chooses. To me, this is the only rule that should be set in stone. All the rest should be as free as possible.

Btw, before i mentioned my researches about the cuckquean phenomenon...but I forgot to mention something that might make people luagh (or angry...dunno). While doing those researches, I have come across a research where ti was stated that white women (especially in the USa) tend to look for black "bulls" because it is a cultural heritage of when Afroamericans were slave. I have lost my documentation but I remember this (female) sociologist asserting that, since it was customary to not consider black people as humans during the slavery era - and hence it was not truly considered cheating to sleep with them - , that mechanism remained ingraned in the society. Especially where black people obtained legal right not too long ago.

I cannot stress that I have no set opinon on that. It was an article I read a long time ago, but I don't have sufficient data pro or contrary the thesis. However, @SandL, something more to think about as to why you choose black men!! hahahahahah (Kidding, obviously...)

Just now, secondjag said:

have to be honest; i seriously doubt the cliches will ever dissuade any potential couples, and in fact, probably do more to bring couples to the lifestyle

It is sure possible. We have daily experience of how the "average joe" simply LOVES classifications and stereotypes. So, maybe the balance is still in favor of a cuckold world where there are definite roles. It is very possible I'm biased by my preferences.

2 minutes ago, SandL said:

Thanks! That’s a good point...about how the stereotypes could “dissuade new couples/cucks”. We sort of fell into this. After an unfortunate event, we started exploring what we liked...apart from the internet. Once my husband was able to admit that he liked the idea of me with other men...THEN we started researching online. Had we not already had some experience (the unfortunate event)...we might have avoided it altogether because of what we were reading at first. You have to look pretty hard to find good stuff on this lifestyle that’s not humiliating to the husband. There is good stuff...but it’s the stereotype stuff that pops up first.

And thanks for the compliment! I enjoy your perspective on this and hope that you also continue having fun!  

I feel for the difficulty of finding specific, non stereotypical stuff online. I'll tell you an experience of mine. I am obviously i man, as stated in my profile, but I was doing some research on the cuckquean phenomenon, both because the idea intrigues me greatly and because I wanted to help a friend out (I cannot go into more details about this last aspect). In any case, reading some peer-reviewed articles on medicine and psychology magazines I've come across stunning figures concerning HOW MANY women fantasize about sharing their men WITHOUT taking part in the act. I would have never guessed it. Of course, it varies with the country but the average percentage I've found is around 15%, which is staggering if you consider what is normally thought of women and jelousy.

However, if one goes online (even in cuckoldry dedicated forums and porn sites) you can barely find anything. In videos, a "cuckquean" is nothing more than a girlfriend that organizes a threesome for her man, where she is one of the girls fucking him. Hence, creating a lot of confusion. The cuckqueans I've talked to on Tumblr have told me that they have rarely come across other cuckqueans that enjoy being humiliated or shamed....because it would generate too much insecurity in them to go on with the relationship. Despite this, all the cuckquean videos I've found portray the quean in a humiliated position.

Oh....i think I have found at most 5 videos and a couple threads on the subject....

12 minutes ago, SandL said:

I guess I’ll write from the women’s perspective. In some ways I guess we fit the stereotype that you said is pushing you away. In other ways we don’t fit them. I’ve only been with two men besides my husband and both were much bigger and both were black. I’m not sure why I gravitate that way but I think it has more to do with the fact that a black guy was my first besides my husband. Not sure...I’ve never tried to figure that out but now you’ve got me thinking . I didn’t go out of my way to choose a black guy...it just happened that way. My husband doesn’t not satisfy me. He is smaller...but I think he’s more average than small (I didn’t have any sexual experiences before him)...so I think he’s just smaller than the others I’ve been with. He’s also more on the passive/submissive side when it comes to sex...but he’s definitely not the wimpy kind that people assume cuckolds are...I don’t like that stereotype either. I do tease him...but only because he likes it...but I would never hhhhhhhhh him or try to insult him, though sometimes I get carried away...he teases me too and reins me in when I need it . We’re trying to do this stuff our way and not be too influenced by the stereotypes...but the stereotypes do make it hard to just do it your own way. I guess you can sort of fall into the expectations of roles in this world too...the very thing we tried to avoid by embracing this lifestyle. That’s a weird twist in a way. We struggled with that for a while...especially my husband. It was hard for him because of how the stereotypes made him assume how I must view him. That was a big hurdle and one that I think we’ll always have to watch out for...because of how big the stereotype stuff is. But we’ve done a pretty good job of avoiding it I think...with lots of advice from some good friends on here to just do the things we like and be who we really are and don’t let anyone tell us we’re doing it wrong.

All in all, sexually we lean towards the cuckold marriage...but my husband does satisfy me...with himself as we still have lots and lots of sex...and by letting me have different kinds of sex with other men...and hopefully some women too! 

Thank you very much for in depth analysis and for our reply in general.

I love having a woman's perspective on the subject. I am also glad that my post got you thinking about your choices hahahahahah (Just kidding here...)

I think it is very relevant what you said about stereotypes having been a big hurdle for you and your husband. As a matter of fact, I had never thought about it this way....but the chiches may dissuade new couples/cucks to approach this lifestyle because they don't like parts of it and they feel it's impossible to elude certain roles or labels.

I'm not saying anything new but it obviously transpires from your and your husband's posts that you carry out a satisying, fulfilling cuckold life. I am very happy for you. I thank you again for your insight and wish you can continue having fun for a long time, without stereotypes getting in your way.

41 minutes ago, Oldercuck2 said:

Most cuck videos depict the cuck as a whimp and most of the men fucking their wife to be well hung black men.  this may fit a lot of the situations but is far from the facts of my wife and my relationship with the lifestyle.  simply put I am not into any type of humiliation, dont tie me up call me names or any of that kind of thing.  i am not a racist but having a black man fuck my wife doesnt turn me on or have any effect on me just because of the color of his skin.  my wife has fucked black men and i see no different than any other man who has fucked her.  I simply enjoy watching other men no matter who they are fuck my wife.  i enjoy knowing that my wife is able to give herself freely to whom ever she desires living her life to the fullest.  i do not deprive myself of other women however I get as much if not more pleasure from watching or knowing my wife is fucking other men.  I have given my wife my approval to explore her sexual needs when most men feel it is only ok for them to fuck around and do not tolerate the idea that their wife is doing the same.   

Thank you for sharing your point of view. It's nice to know I'm not alone in this crusade! lol

1 hour ago, Bimarried001 said:

I like the objectives of this post. I am a black cuck with 9” dick and I love sharing my wife. I don’t share her because I didn’t satisfy her but because I was always turned on by the thought seeing her get fucked by other men. 

I do fit some stereotypes but as I watch and read cuckold films and stories I also get upset with the stereotypical Portrayal of cucks and cuckold relationships. 

Thank you for sharing your experience. That's precisely what I'm talking about. You being black or having a long dick doesn't mean you can't play the role of the cuck, in the relationship. It's the PSYCHOLOGICAL stimulation of the entire setting that is at the heart of cuckolding. 

As a matter of fact, my first experience with a married woman with the husband's approval happened with a Moroccan woman. I was taking a trip of the country with a Moroccan friend of mine and we were hosted by an uncle of his' place. I didn't speak a word in Arabic or French (the only two language the average joe understands there...) but I did notice that our host and his wife were exchanging looks after staring at me. In the night, the woman woke me up and brought me to the basement, where his husband was already jerking off. We put on a show for him.

But I'm getting beside my point....which is that there are African into being cucks. That stands for black skinned Africans or Afroamericans as well.