I took the leap and one time in Vegas just hopped in a cab and gave the driver the address to a swingers club. We had talked about it for years and finally just took the plunge. We started swinging with couples and then slowly we both realized we enjoyed the MFM dynamic of playing, and there was drama with the other women a couple of times. I don't know if you realize it, but there are many catty women out there and in my experience, they have been the ones that have fucked up what could have been great experience. We have been on a very long break, over two years because of some bullshit that went down with the women, so we may not play again ever, which is weird as I have told her adding another guy would be great and go from there. But, yes...open communication and just keep prodding the thing along, slowly, but consistently. I am still looking for a wingman that isn't a douche and knows how to share a woman, most dudes are selfish and it is all about their dick and not her pleasure. It is a rough life we're living, gentlemen...we just have to make the best of it! Best of luck to you!