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You simply have to figure out a way to breach the subject.  Her reactions can vary.  It could upset her, she could be indifferent, she could laugh.  If you're lucky, she could show interest immediately, but that would be rare.

Expect her to be suspicious of your motives.  She may wonder if you're feeling guilty for something you have done or looking for permission for yourself.

Either way, expect her to be against the idea, at least at first.  However, breaching the subject with her will definitely plant a seed of thought in her mind.  If she gets upset by the idea, don't push it.  Allow that seed of thought to grow in her mind.

My wife and I started early in our relationship.  We were in our early 20's and in college.  It's rare for couples to start at an early age like us and be successful.  So, I consider ourselves to be very lucky.  But, we have many, many friends that started later in life as you are.  Most of them offered the idea but didn't actually take the first step until a few years later.  Yep, it took that long for the seed to grow.  So patience, on your part, is vital.

Keep this in mind, though.  If your wife does agree, there may be no turning back.  Wives that decide to try it, often start off reluctant, then love it.  When you give freedom to a person, they usually don't want to give it up, lol

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8 hours ago, pflash99 said:

You simply have to figure out a way to breach the subject.  Her reactions can vary.  It could upset her, she could be indifferent, she could laugh.  If you're lucky, she could show interest immediately, but that would be rare.

Expect her to be suspicious of your motives.  She may wonder if you're feeling guilty for something you have done or looking for permission for yourself.

Either way, expect her to be against the idea, at least at first.  However, breaching the subject with her will definitely plant a seed of thought in her mind.  If she gets upset by the idea, don't push it.  Allow that seed of thought to grow in her mind.

My wife and I started early in our relationship.  We were in our early 20's and in college.  It's rare for couples to start at an early age like us and be successful.  So, I consider ourselves to be very lucky.  But, we have many, many friends that started later in life as you are.  Most of them offered the idea but didn't actually take the first step until a few years later.  Yep, it took that long for the seed to grow.  So patience, on your part, is vital.

Keep this in mind, though.  If your wife does agree, there may be no turning back.  Wives that decide to try it, often start off reluctant, then love it.  When you give freedom to a person, they usually don't want to give it up, lol

Thankyou pflash99.....for this excellent advice.

 

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10 hours ago, pflash99 said:

Keep this in mind, though.  If your wife does agree, there may be no turning back.  Wives that decide to try it, often start off reluctant, then love it.  When you give freedom to a person, they usually don't want to give it up, lol

Freedom is a good thing. Enjoying that freedom for the benefit of both is even better! Learning to know when and to what degreee you can enjoy your freedom in ways that are healthy for both is the best! 

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30 minutes ago, SandL said:

Freedom is a good thing. Enjoying that freedom for the benefit of both is even better! Learning to know when and to what degreee you can enjoy your freedom in ways that are healthy for both is the best! 

It's not about me or my freedom I want my Wife to experience sex with a "real Man".

She has missed out on so much and if giving her  freedom gets her addicted to bigger Alpha Men then I will be over the Moon.

 

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On 5/22/2019 at 7:07 AM, pflash99 said:

You simply have to figure out a way to breach the subject.  Her reactions can vary.  It could upset her, she could be indifferent, she could laugh.  If you're lucky, she could show interest immediately, but that would be rare.

Expect her to be suspicious of your motives.  She may wonder if you're feeling guilty for something you have done or looking for permission for yourself.

Either way, expect her to be against the idea, at least at first.  However, breaching the subject with her will definitely plant a seed of thought in her mind.  If she gets upset by the idea, don't push it.  Allow that seed of thought to grow in her mind.

My wife and I started early in our relationship.  We were in our early 20's and in college.  It's rare for couples to start at an early age like us and be successful.  So, I consider ourselves to be very lucky.  But, we have many, many friends that started later in life as you are.  Most of them offered the idea but didn't actually take the first step until a few years later.  Yep, it took that long for the seed to grow.  So patience, on your part, is vital.

Keep this in mind, though.  If your wife does agree, there may be no turning back.  Wives that decide to try it, often start off reluctant, then love it.  When you give freedom to a person, they usually don't want to give it up, lol

Id agree, mine was very reluctant at fist, and found the whole thing humiliating for her. But that was a turn on in itself for me which I was really surprised about. He was much older and pushed her to do things she wouldnt have dreamt about before but it became a huge turn on for her as well as me as things progressed. She certainly didnt want to give it up nor those that had the pleasure to enjoyed her. I loved her doing it. But be careful what you wish for.

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2 hours ago, PlayMate said:

It's not about me or my freedom I want my Wife to experience sex with a "real Man".

She has missed out on so much and if giving her  freedom gets her addicted to bigger Alpha Men then I will be over the Moon.

 

Believe me, you're not alone.  But as SandL stated, the beauty of it is that you both get to benefit from the freedom you give your wife.

If you have been fantasizing about this for years, then you will probably enjoy it and handle it very well, if it happens.  However, some guys have been known to change their minds when their fantasies become reality, lol.

You sound a lot like me.  I love knowing my wife is getting sex from better men than me.  You would think that would drive a guy into a jealous fit, but it doesn't.  I get extreme arousal from another man making my wife squeal and squirm in ways I cannot.  Watching is best, but just knowing it's happening arouses me as well.  So, my wife is allowed to spend time with her bf as much and as often as she wants.  

I'm not bad at sex, but I am very submissive with an average size cock.  My wife, however, loves rough sex, big cocks, and very dominant men.  So, yes, my wife is addicted to alpha men with big cocks.

Of all the other men my wife has had since we've been together, it hasn't affected the love and intimacy that she and I have always shared.  We hold hands when we walk together, we still kiss very passionately and truly enjoy each other's conversation.

We still have fun sex and she will even give me blow jobs, but she knows I prefer her to have the majority of her sex with her bf.  She and I have sex probably twice a month on average, but she has sex almost every day with her bf or bf's.

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1 hour ago, pflash99 said:

Believe me, you're not alone.  But as SandL stated, the beauty of it is that you both get to benefit from the freedom you give your wife.

If you have been fantasizing about this for years, then you will probably enjoy it and handle it very well, if it happens.  However, some guys have been known to change their minds when their fantasies become reality, lol.

You sound a lot like me.  I love knowing my wife is getting sex from better men than me.  You would think that would drive a guy into a jealous fit, but it doesn't.  I get extreme arousal from another man making my wife squeal and squirm in ways I cannot.  Watching is best, but just knowing it's happening arouses me as well.  So, my wife is allowed to spend time with her bf as much and as often as she wants.  

I'm not bad at sex, but I am very submissive with an average size cock.  My wife, however, loves rough sex, big cocks, and very dominant men.  So, yes, my wife is addicted to alpha men with big cocks.

Of all the other men my wife has had since we've been together, it hasn't affected the love and intimacy that she and I have always shared.  We hold hands when we walk together, we still kiss very passionately and truly enjoy each other's conversation.

We still have fun sex and she will even give me blow jobs, but she knows I prefer her to have the majority of her sex with her bf.  She and I have sex probably twice a month on average, but she has sex almost every day with her bf or bf's.

Her ideal Alpha Man....I would love a description of him in explicit detail.

I want my Wife who has never been with another Man to read your full story.

Thankyou so much.

1 hour ago, pflash99 said:

Believe me, you're not alone.  But as SandL stated, the beauty of it is that you both get to benefit from the freedom you give your wife.

If you have been fantasizing about this for years, then you will probably enjoy it and handle it very well, if it happens.  However, some guys have been known to change their minds when their fantasies become reality, lol.

You sound a lot like me.  I love knowing my wife is getting sex from better men than me.  You would think that would drive a guy into a jealous fit, but it doesn't.  I get extreme arousal from another man making my wife squeal and squirm in ways I cannot.  Watching is best, but just knowing it's happening arouses me as well.  So, my wife is allowed to spend time with her bf as much and as often as she wants.  

I'm not bad at sex, but I am very submissive with an average size cock.  My wife, however, loves rough sex, big cocks, and very dominant men.  So, yes, my wife is addicted to alpha men with big cocks.

Of all the other men my wife has had since we've been together, it hasn't affected the love and intimacy that she and I have always shared.  We hold hands when we walk together, we still kiss very passionately and truly enjoy each other's conversation.

We still have fun sex and she will even give me blow jobs, but she knows I prefer her to have the majority of her sex with her bf.  She and I have sex probably twice a month on average, but she has sex almost every day with her bf or bf's.

 

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“Her ideal Alpha Man....I would love a description of him in explicit detail.

I want my Wife who has never been with another Man to read your full story.

 Thankyou so much.”

From the woman’s perspective, I’m not sure you’re ready as a couple or as a husband. I have a pretty limited experience....but I have my experience in this. If you REALLY want this to happen I would suggest two things. 

First: you have to know YOU can handle it. You’re thinking about this and want this when you’re turned on by it. But how will you feel when you’ve had your little orgasm? It’s then that you’ll doubt your place in your wife’s heart if you’re not confident in your marriage. It’s one thing to see a porno and imagine your wife as the woman...it’s another when you ACTUALLY SEE another man do things to your wife that you can’t and never could. Also, it’s one thing to see your wife be brought to an orgasm you can’t make her have....it’s another to deal with that after you’ve cum in your hand watching. Can you handle that all the time? Knowing that she knows that? Knowing that when she thinks about sex she’s not thinking about you? Knowing that when she touches herself it’s not about your dick? As steptoe said, be careful what you wish for. Once that door is opened you can’t close it. She will still love you...if you are more to her than just some guy she;s married to....but she won’t think about sex with you in the same way. I promise you that..and you have to be able to handle that if you’re going to do this. 

Second: if you are able to handle this...talk to her. I mean really talk to her. Don’t just show her a video of a guy with a big cock who fucks a woman to an incredible orgasm. It’s not about that for her...not yet. More than anything, she doesn’t want to lose her marriage or lose you...if you’re a proper husband who is more to her than a man with a dick. If she really loves you...your marriage is worth more to her than a good fuck. She needs to REALLY AND TRULY believe that you want this for her and that you’re feelings for her won’t change for the worse. She NEEDS to KNOW that you won’t think differently about her after she has sex with an alpha man...as you say. That happens through talking...not through manipulation. I would be glad to talk to her...as others did with me...but more than anything, she needs to hear it from you. 

 

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8 hours ago, SandL said:

“Her ideal Alpha Man....I would love a description of him in explicit detail.

I want my Wife who has never been with another Man to read your full story.

 Thankyou so much.”

From the woman’s perspective, I’m not sure you’re ready as a couple or as a husband. I have a pretty limited experience....but I have my experience in this. If you REALLY want this to happen I would suggest two things. 

First: you have to know YOU can handle it. You’re thinking about this and want this when you’re turned on by it. But how will you feel when you’ve had your little orgasm? It’s then that you’ll doubt your place in your wife’s heart if you’re not confident in your marriage. It’s one thing to see a porno and imagine your wife as the woman...it’s another when you ACTUALLY SEE another man do things to your wife that you can’t and never could. Also, it’s one thing to see your wife be brought to an orgasm you can’t make her have....it’s another to deal with that after you’ve cum in your hand watching. Can you handle that all the time? Knowing that she knows that? Knowing that when she thinks about sex she’s not thinking about you? Knowing that when she touches herself it’s not about your dick? As steptoe said, be careful what you wish for. Once that door is opened you can’t close it. She will still love you...if you are more to her than just some guy she;s married to....but she won’t think about sex with you in the same way. I promise you that..and you have to be able to handle that if you’re going to do this. 

Second: if you are able to handle this...talk to her. I mean really talk to her. Don’t just show her a video of a guy with a big cock who fucks a woman to an incredible orgasm. It’s not about that for her...not yet. More than anything, she doesn’t want to lose her marriage or lose you...if you’re a proper husband who is more to her than a man with a dick. If she really loves you...your marriage is worth more to her than a good fuck. She needs to REALLY AND TRULY believe that you want this for her and that you’re feelings for her won’t change for the worse. She NEEDS to KNOW that you won’t think differently about her after she has sex with an alpha man...as you say. That happens through talking...not through manipulation. I would be glad to talk to her...as others did with me...but more than anything, she needs to hear it from you. 

 

Well said I agree. When that moment comes that you think you want to see, In our case there was an older, rougher man with his big rock hard cock buried deep in her tight vagina ejaculating his sperm in to her, How will she feel then ? and how will you feel ? Will if be a loving experience ? or will the humiliation for her or you be part of it ? I remember the first time when he called her a slut, his balls tightening, shooting his sperm inside as he was ejaculating inside her vagina was just the best thing Ive ever seen. How will she feel and how will you react ? Is it just a fuck or is it something much more than that. You need to speak to her and decide.

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2 hours ago, steptoe said:

 

My Goodness so much to absorb and think about now.......maybe even forget about this fetish I have 🙂

What if it did go all wrong for both of us........

Your experience and wise words paint a clear Picture that this outcome is a real risk to both of us.

I am maybe better as a "Closet Cuck" and have my hand as my best Friend.

 

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4 hours ago, PlayMate said:

My Goodness so much to absorb and think about now.......maybe even forget about this fetish I have 🙂

What if it did go all wrong for both of us........

Your experience and wise words paint a clear Picture that this outcome is a real risk to both of us.

I am maybe better as a "Closet Cuck" and have my hand as my best Friend.

 

Its a balance of risk but it also comes with some of the best rewards you will ever have in your life.

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2 hours ago, PlayMate said:

My Goodness so much to absorb and think about now.......maybe even forget about this fetish I have 🙂

What if it did go all wrong for both of us........

Your experience and wise words paint a clear Picture that this outcome is a real risk to both of us.

I am maybe better as a "Closet Cuck" and have my hand as my best Friend.

 

I wasn’t trying to talk you out of this. I was just trying to make sure you really thought about it. My husband and I are closer than we ever ave been. We still have sex...and that’s even better too. But this lifestyle will only work if you both are open and honest with one another...and if you both can put eacother’s needs and desires ahead of your own. If you can do that...it can make your marriage better and stronger. Just make sure you’ve thought it through. 

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8 hours ago, SandL said:

“Her ideal Alpha Man....I would love a description of him in explicit detail.

I want my Wife who has never been with another Man to read your full story.

 Thankyou so much.”

From the woman’s perspective, I’m not sure you’re ready as a couple or as a husband. I have a pretty limited experience....but I have my experience in this. If you REALLY want this to happen I would suggest two things. 

First: you have to know YOU can handle it. You’re thinking about this and want this when you’re turned on by it. But how will you feel when you’ve had your little orgasm? It’s then that you’ll doubt your place in your wife’s heart if you’re not confident in your marriage. It’s one thing to see a porno and imagine your wife as the woman...it’s another when you ACTUALLY SEE another man do things to your wife that you can’t and never could. Also, it’s one thing to see your wife be brought to an orgasm you can’t make her have....it’s another to deal with that after you’ve cum in your hand watching. Can you handle that all the time? Knowing that she knows that? Knowing that when she thinks about sex she’s not thinking about you? Knowing that when she touches herself it’s not about your dick? As steptoe said, be careful what you wish for. Once that door is opened you can’t close it. She will still love you...if you are more to her than just some guy she;s married to....but she won’t think about sex with you in the same way. I promise you that..and you have to be able to handle that if you’re going to do this. 

Second: if you are able to handle this...talk to her. I mean really talk to her. Don’t just show her a video of a guy with a big cock who fucks a woman to an incredible orgasm. It’s not about that for her...not yet. More than anything, she doesn’t want to lose her marriage or lose you...if you’re a proper husband who is more to her than a man with a dick. If she really loves you...your marriage is worth more to her than a good fuck. She needs to REALLY AND TRULY believe that you want this for her and that you’re feelings for her won’t change for the worse. She NEEDS to KNOW that you won’t think differently about her after she has sex with an alpha man...as you say. That happens through talking...not through manipulation. I would be glad to talk to her...as others did with me...but more than anything, she needs to hear it from you. 

 

 

2 hours ago, SandL said:

I wasn’t trying to talk you out of this. I was just trying to make sure you really thought about it. My husband and I are closer than we ever ave been. We still have sex...and that’s even better too. But this lifestyle will only work if you both are open and honest with one another...and if you both can put eacother’s needs and desires ahead of your own. If you can do that...it can make your marriage better and stronger. Just make sure you’ve thought it through. 

Omg girl,  I m loving you.   You guys have come so far and learned so much in what little bit of time.  Your advice couldn’t be more spot on.  

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3 minutes ago, 🎉🎊LilNickysPlayhouse🎊🎉 said:

 

Omg girl,  I m loving you.   You guys have come so far and learned so much in what little bit of time.  Your advice couldn’t be more spot on.  

Now I just need to make sure I’m following my own advice! 😬

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Just now, 🎉🎊LilNickysPlayhouse🎊🎉 said:

Very true, it all comes down to communication.  

And good friends like you :) 🤗 

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6 hours ago, PlayMate said:

My Goodness so much to absorb and think about now.......maybe even forget about this fetish I have 🙂

What if it did go all wrong for both of us........

Your experience and wise words paint a clear Picture that this outcome is a real risk to both of us.

I am maybe better as a "Closet Cuck" and have my hand as my best Friend.

 

So do you think this is more what youd love to see as its a really strong fetish for you ? or do you think its something that would be a really big turn on for her and encouraging her to do it ot letting her do it would it bring you closer together ?

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On 5/22/2019 at 4:07 PM, pflash99 said:

You simply have to figure out a way to breach the subject.  Her reactions can vary.  It could upset her, she could be indifferent, she could laugh.  If you're lucky, she could show interest immediately, but that would be rare.

Expect her to be suspicious of your motives.  She may wonder if you're feeling guilty for something you have done or looking for permission for yourself.

Either way, expect her to be against the idea, at least at first.  However, breaching the subject with her will definitely plant a seed of thought in her mind.  If she gets upset by the idea, don't push it.  Allow that seed of thought to grow in her mind.

My wife and I started early in our relationship.  We were in our early 20's and in college.  It's rare for couples to start at an early age like us and be successful.  So, I consider ourselves to be very lucky.  But, we have many, many friends that started later in life as you are.  Most of them offered the idea but didn't actually take t he first step until a few years later.  Yep, it took that long for the seed to grow.  So patience, on your part, is vital.

Keep this in mind, though.  If your wife does agree, there may be no turning back.  Wives that decide to try it, often start off reluctant, then love it.  When you give freedom t areo a person, they usually don't want to give it up, lol

All this excellent advice is welcomed but in it's entirety appears overwhelming and fraught with a huge downside if the wheels fall off.

So enter ( Plan B ).......

In February 2020 my Wife and her best Friend  ( who has been a Widow now for 14 years ) have booked a 5 week  Cruise featuring Europe, UK and Scotland. Her best Friend knows that I have not been a faithful Husband over the years but she has never told my Wife. 

Sneaky I know  but over the past 12-18 months the Wife's best Friend has had a few "Relationships" but other than sex they have amounted to nothing. I plan to ask her if she could encourage my Wife to participate in everything that may come their way on the 5 week Cruise even if it means telling my Wife about the "Affairs" I have had and now it is her turn to have her own fun and forget that she is married. Take her Wedding ring off for 5 weeks!!!

When they return I will ask her best Friend if the "plan" has worked and if it did then over the next few weeks I will slowly extract all of the juicy details. My Wife will be dumbfounded when she sees that I a not mad or jealous about what happened but super excited.

I will ask her to tell me everything about the Men she met and what they did......how much better were they than me.....how much bigger their Cocks were than mine and how did it feel to be in the arms of a REAL MAN and not a short (5ft 5 ins ) overweight, balding pathetic man like me.

That then will be the start of our Cuckold Lifestyle for many years to come.

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No, Playmate, I do not recommend that.  That could ruin the entire cruise vacation for your wife.  Worst case, your wife could get off that cruise to come home and confront you.  Admitting to past indiscretions is a totally different issue.

If you really want to open your marriage, you have to be on a very firm foundation.  I think that will shake that foundation.

If the friend "that knows" finds out you are trying to give your wife permission, she will understand why.  Leave it at that.

Also, asking a friend to tell your wife something you did, is putting that friend on the spot.  It could ruin her friendship with your wife, because your wife may wonder why she never told her and wonder if she was involved.

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The emotional challenges SandL was referring to is what many call a "down or a drop."  It's a good thing she brought that up because some guys feel it and she just wants you to be prepared, in case you do.  I felt it a couple of times in the beginning and, to me, it closely resembled buyers remorse.  

If your wife decides to go for it, once it happens, many guys feel a temporary state of depression.  Believe it or not, it can be triggered by you having an ejaculation.

Not all guys experience it, but if you do, take a deep breath and do nor say nothing.  Do everything you can to contain your emotions because It will dissipate.  The drops I experienced only lasted a few hours.

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