New to this lifestyle. Seeking advice.

[Jacko]

Hi

I'm new to all this, like really new.  I've fallen into a situation where I am apparently a bull.  I've searched for information but you just tend to get overwhelmed with a myriad of videos and pictures and not a lot of real information.  I'm hoping this is the right site/forum to seek information from real people with real world experiences?

So basically a group of us friends got together at a holiday cabin after not seeing each other for ages because of covid.  After a few days everyone went home except for me and a couple.  This couple has been part of our extended group but I didn't know them well.  We ended up having a threesome initiated by them.  It happened twice (apparently their first time).  Holiday over.  We all went home.  

So three months later a get a call from them and they propositioned me to be their bull.  I know this will sound incredibly ignorant but at the time I didn't even know what that was.  So they described what they wanted, him only watching, her and I going on dates etc and asked if I was interested.  We met, we talked, they presented me with a contract which just blew my mind.  

I have no idea what I'm doing.  This seems to be so much more involved that just having sex with his wife.  We had a "practice go" and I'm not sure he wants this.  He was in a corner, not allowed to join in, and then at the end had to "clean up".  I'm starting to learn that these things are normal.

Anyway, I was just hoping to find someone who I can bounce questions off or people than can share their experiences so I can get a better understanding.  

[Bull4achinashop]

My first experience as a Bull started out a little awkward. After talking it through with them we agreed, day to day life they were a normal couple and I was just a good friend. She and I would go to a park, movie, lunch as “friends” to reduce conflict with people who didn’t understand. In private I had access to her whenever I wanted it. He even had to have my permission to touch her sexually. 

My advice would be communication like a superior at work. They’ve already thought it through if they have a contract. If it’s not in there add a “trial period with no hurt feelings” clause and enjoy owning another man’s wife. Feel free to message me if you would like to discuss further. 

[captainblack]

15 hours ago, Bull4achinashop said:

My first experience as a Bull started out a little awkward. After talking it through with them we agreed, day to day life they were a normal couple and I was just a good friend. She and I would go to a park, movie, lunch as “friends” to reduce conflict with people who didn’t understand. In private I had access to her whenever I wanted it. He even had to have my permission to touch her sexually. 

My advice would be communication like a superior at work. They’ve already thought it through if they have a contract. If it’s not in there add a “trial period with no hurt feelings” clause and enjoy owning another man’s wife. Feel free to message me if you would like to discuss further. 

Perfect advice. 

My first couple was part of my circle of friends and approached me repeatedly over a number of months, including the husband begging me in line at a store to please just fuck his wife once.  When they eventually convinced me to have sex with her it was much like the above.  The three of us socialized and went places together, she and I would go out as friends, but I had her in my bed from Friday night to Sunday brunch nearly every week and sometimes if we could, an overnight during the week.

She always made sure to have a fresh cream pie for him when we joined him for brunch. He would slide his hand up her skirt and moments later lick his fingers clean.  I suspect I know what he was doing when they got home a bit later.

Just go with it.  Date her like she was a single woman.  If you are not fucking her I am sure someone else will be.

[Jacko]

20 hours ago, Bull4achinashop said:

She and I would go to a park, movie, lunch as “friends”

I guess this is where I am confused.  What is the cuckold part of this?  Isn't this just a couple with an open relationship and I'm her boyfriend?  
I don't mind being the boyfriend.  I don't mind doing it with him there whether he joins in or not.  But as the bull am I supposed to hhhhhhhhh him or something?

The contract is kind of vague, I'm guessing they thought it was something they should do but it's not really detailed.  
Essentially it says I'm the bull, I own her sexually when we're together, she will not be allowed to say no to me, I can bring other people if I wish, then it talks about hygiene, condom use, contact away from the 'dates' etc.  The rest is about their relationship and how she will control every part of their relationship including money, sex etc and how he must help get her ready for me before our dates. 

So I see where she is dominating him and controlling him but it seems my role is just the boyfriend?  Unless we happen to have sex with him present this is just them in an open relationship, am I correct?  Is that normal cuckold behavior, I though cuckolding was doing it in front of the cuck?  

On another note if I sign the contract I am supposed to take her away from Dec 28 - Jan 3 to a hotel they had previously booked but he has been told to stay home with me taking his place. 

[Naughty Nicki]

1 hour ago, Jacko said:

I guess this is where I am confused.  What is the cuckold part of this?  Isn't this just a couple with an open relationship and I'm her boyfriend?  
I don't mind being the boyfriend.  I don't mind doing it with him there whether he joins in or not.  But as the bull am I supposed to hhhhhhhhh him or something?

The contract is kind of vague, I'm guessing they thought it was something they should do but it's not really detailed.  
Essentially it says I'm the bull, I own her sexually when we're together, she will not be allowed to say no to me, I can bring other people if I wish, then it talks about hygiene, condom use, contact away from the 'dates' etc.  The rest is about their relationship and how she will control every part of their relationship including money, sex etc and how he must help get her ready for me before our dates. 

So I see where she is dominating him and controlling him but it seems my role is just the boyfriend?  Unless we happen to have sex with him present this is just them in an open relationship, am I correct?  Is that normal cuckold behavior, I though cuckolding was doing it in front of the cuck?  

On another note if I sign the contract I am supposed to take her away from Dec 28 - Jan 3 to a hotel they had previously booked but he has been told to stay home with me taking his place. 

Hi jacko,  let me try and help a little bit.  Each couple is completely different and unique in what they want and looking for, some just want sex, some want a dominant male figure with out humiliation, some want the humiliation, while some want someone to take complete control in every aspect, with you being completely new communication is key for this to work for everyone. 
                                 Nicki

if you have any questions or concerns please feel free to message me. And good luck. 

[Bull4achinashop]

3 hours ago, Jacko said:

I guess this is where I am confused.  What is the cuckold part of this?  Isn't this just a couple with an open relationship and I'm her boyfriend?  
I don't mind being the boyfriend.  I don't mind doing it with him there whether he joins in or not.  But as the bull am I supposed to hhhhhhhhh him or something?

The contract is kind of vague, I'm guessing they thought it was something they should do but it's not really detailed.  
Essentially it says I'm the bull, I own her sexually when we're together, she will not be allowed to say no to me, I can bring other people if I wish, then it talks about hygiene, condom use, contact away from the 'dates' etc.  The rest is about their relationship and how she will control every part of their relationship including money, sex etc and how he must help get her ready for me before our dates. 

So I see where she is dominating him and controlling him but it seems my role is just the boyfriend?  Unless we happen to have sex with him present this is just them in an open relationship, am I correct?  Is that normal cuckold behavior, I though cuckolding was doing it in front of the cuck?  

On another note if I sign the contract I am supposed to take her away from Dec 28 - Jan 3 to a hotel they had previously booked but he has been told to stay home with me taking his place. 

That’s part of why I said communication is important. Let it evolve. For example, the couple I mentioned he didn’t want to be humiliated. He was not allowed to touch her without my permission. And he enjoyed preparing her. I would text him your marriage bed in 20 minutes. When I walked in she would be spread, wet and ready. A lot of it for them was the taboo that I fucked his wife whenever I wanted to. That any time she had cum in her it wasn’t her husbands, he wasn’t allowed to. We enjoyed when we would be around other people that only the three of us knew her wet panties were because I had just fucked her. 
 

It all depends on what the three of you are comfortable with. Some like the open humiliation. Some it’s somewhere in between. Some like my first couple it is the act of that I wanted to own her body, the husband lost his rights to his wife sexually, and that whether he was there or not when I wanted pussy I was going to use hers. He needed my permission to touch his wife. Plus as your couple’s contract states, when I said spread your legs she had to open up no matter when or where. 
 

it seems to me from the little you’ve said he is submissive to her and their start down this road is as a cuck he accepts that another man owns his wife’s body. Plus as a husband what goes through his mind? Preparing his wife to go out with another man. Watching them together. Knowing that other man is going to decide his sex life including when, where and who is going to fuck his wife. 

[Naughty Nicki]

16 minutes ago, Bull4achinashop said:

That’s part of why I said communication is important. Let it evolve. For example, the couple I mentioned he didn’t want to be humiliated. He was not allowed to touch her without my permission. And he enjoyed preparing her. I would text him your marriage bed in 20 minutes. When I walked in she would be spread, wet and ready. A lot of it for them was the taboo that I fucked his wife whenever I wanted to. That any time she had cum in her it wasn’t her husbands, he wasn’t allowed to. We enjoyed when we would be around other people that only the three of us knew her wet panties were because I had just fucked her. 
 

It all depends on what the three of you are comfortable with. Some like the open humiliation. Some it’s somewhere in between. Some like my first couple it is the act of that I wanted to own her body, the husband lost his rights to his wife sexually, and that whether he was there or not when I wanted pussy I was going to use hers. He needed my permission to touch his wife. Plus as your couple’s contract states, when I said spread your legs she had to open up no matter when or where. 
 

it seems to me from the little you’ve said he is submissive to her and their start down this road is as a cuck he accepts that another man owns his wife’s body. Plus as a husband what goes through his mind? Preparing his wife to go out with another man. Watching them together. Knowing that other man is going to decide his sex life including when, where and who is going to fuck his wife. 

It’s actually nice to see other guys giving legit advice and trying to help out, I’ve seen so many times where they give BS advice where you can tell they either don’t know much about the  LS or they don’t care and or only want to get lucky. 

[Bull4achinashop]

19 minutes ago, Naughty Nicki said:

It’s actually nice to see other guys giving legit advice and trying to help out, I’ve seen so many times where they give BS advice where you can tell they either don’t know much about the  LS or they don’t care and or only want to get lucky. 

Thank you Nicki. It’s usually pretty easy to spot the wannabe bulls (small b on purpose lol)  they just want an excuse to be abusive and/or to fuck someone’s wife. They don’t get whether it’s Bull/cuck, Dom/sub, M/s it’s a lifestyle that is personal and individual. It’s nice to reply to someone who truly seems to be trying to understand. 

[Naughty Nicki]

30 minutes ago, Bull4achinashop said:

Thank you Nicki. It’s usually pretty easy to spot the wannabe bulls (small b on purpose lol)  they just want an excuse to be abusive and/or to fuck someone’s wife. They don’t get whether it’s Bull/cuck, Dom/sub, M/s it’s a lifestyle that is personal and individual. It’s nice to reply to someone who truly seems to be trying to understand. 

You’re truly welcome.   We’ve been in and around the LS now for just over 15 yrs and have explored and tried many different arrangements, we started out swinging and swapping partners and just kinda evolved to were I mostly was the one playing to me being the only one playing to now he does occasionally. we are not your typical cuckold couple though, at least by definition, I have a few regular guys a play with, with and with out my husband sometimes and there is absolutely no humiliation.  I do love a very dominant and assertive guy but only in the bedroom and when I want it, our personal life is just that, ours.  

[Bull4achinashop]

12 minutes ago, Naughty Nicki said:

You’re truly welcome.   We’ve been in and around the LS now for just over 15 yrs and have explored and tried many different arrangements, we started out swinging and swapping partners and just kinda evolved to were I mostly was the one playing to me being the only one playing to now he does occasionally. we are not your typical cuckold couple though, at least by definition, I have a few regular guys a play with, with and with out my husband sometimes and there is absolutely no humiliation.  I do love a very dominant and assertive guy but only in the bedroom and when I want it, our personal life is just that, ours.  

I was in the LS before I knew it was actually a lifestyle. Once you’ve found your place it’s hard to go back to “normal”. At least for me anyway. Hopefully Jacko and this couple will enjoy the journey. 👍

[Naughty Nicki]

I %100 understand that, but what is normal?  Lol.  
  I think if he’s willing to communicate and listen to them and understand what they are needing and wanting they should be fine.  The major thing is realizing it’s for them and as long as  they are enjoying it then he will too.  

[Jacko]

Thanks guys for listening to what must seem like naive questions.  It is appreciated.  

What I take from this is that I seem too hung up on what the terms bull and cuckold mean.  I was trying to modify my behaviour to what was expected of a bull but it seems that what's expected can be anything and/or everything depending on the individuals involved.  I'll just play it by ear from now on and if what they want doesn't fit the narrative of what a bull should be then so what.

It's only two hours from Christmas here in Australia.  I got a text just an hour ago to say that I'm supposed to open my front door at exactly midnight to find a naked woman standing there.  I can "keep her and do what I want with her" until 10am when her husband will pick her up to take them to their parents for lunch.  We have to take photo's and send them to him at least every hour.  Lucky I had a sleep this afternoon!!  It seems they're taking the lead but I have no complaints about that. 

This is so surreal.  I'm actually quite nervous even though it wont be our first time, but will be our first time under this arrangement.  I keep waiting for someone to jump out and tell me I've been pranked.

Anyway, Merry Christmas to you all.  I'll come back with some bragging, or maybe some tears, or maybe just some confused questions, lol. 

[Bull4achinashop]

2 hours ago, Jacko said:

Thanks guys for listening to what must seem like naive questions.  It is appreciated.  

What I take from this is that I seem too hung up on what the terms bull and cuckold mean.  I was trying to modify my behaviour to what was expected of a bull but it seems that what's expected can be anything and/or everything depending on the individuals involved.  I'll just play it by ear from now on and if what they want doesn't fit the narrative of what a bull should be then so what.

It's only two hours from Christmas here in Australia.  I got a text just an hour ago to say that I'm supposed to open my front door at exactly midnight to find a naked woman standing there.  I can "keep her and do what I want with her" until 10am when her husband will pick her up to take them to their parents for lunch.  We have to take photo's and send them to him at least every hour.  Lucky I had a sleep this afternoon!!  It seems they're taking the lead but I have no complaints about that. 

This is so surreal.  I'm actually quite nervous even though it wont be our first time, but will be our first time under this arrangement.  I keep waiting for someone to jump out and tell me I've been pranked.

Anyway, Merry Christmas to you all.  I'll come back with some bragging, or maybe some tears, or maybe just some confused questions, lol. 

Glad to help. Would appreciate knowing how it goes. As we’ve tried to say, the definition of Bull and cuck are what you and they agree for it to be. Communication is the most important thing. If you don’t agree with something talk it out. Otherwise enjoy the ride. And the bride. And the ride on the bride…. Lol

Merry Christmas to you also. 

[Jacko]

Well I have to say I'm hooked.  It's not the sex, as great as that was, it's the idea, the situation, the knowing that her husband knows what we're doing.  When she was on the phone to her husband describing what we were doing I was so turned on.  

He came to pick her up 10 minutes early and even though she was ready she was angry about that.  Because of that she made him watch us do it one more time and deliberately made them late to their Christmas lunch.  I had to finish inside her and she did not clean up and got dressed straight after.  She said that was his punishment knowing that would be there all day and being able to smell sex.  Not sure how you explain that away to family but best I not worry about that.

So now I'm just waiting for the holiday that's been booked.  Apparently we're going toy shopping first and she wants to "try things she has never tried before".  She wont elaborate.  Oh and her husband rang and apologised for coming early the other night and swears it wont happen again.  Oh and she wants me to meet her bff.  Not sure of that is code for something of just a legitimate platonic meeting.

I can't believe how lucky I've got.  I'm not sure a "normal" relationship will ever work for me again after this, and it's only very very new.  

[Bull4achinashop]

11 hours ago, Jacko said:

Well I have to say I'm hooked.  It's not the sex, as great as that was, it's the idea, the situation, the knowing that her husband knows what we're doing.  When she was on the phone to her husband describing what we were doing I was so turned on.  

He came to pick her up 10 minutes early and even though she was ready she was angry about that.  Because of that she made him watch us do it one more time and deliberately made them late to their Christmas lunch.  I had to finish inside her and she did not clean up and got dressed straight after.  She said that was his punishment knowing that would be there all day and being able to smell sex.  Not sure how you explain that away to family but best I not worry about that.

So now I'm just waiting for the holiday that's been booked.  Apparently we're going toy shopping first and she wants to "try things she has never tried before".  She wont elaborate.  Oh and her husband rang and apologised for coming early the other night and swears it wont happen again.  Oh and she wants me to meet her bff.  Not sure of that is code for something of just a legitimate platonic meeting.

I can't believe how lucky I've got.  I'm not sure a "normal" relationship will ever work for me again after this, and it's only very very new.  

Now you’re seeing. Being a Bull or cuck can be physical, but more it’s mental. There’s nothing like sending a wife home marked inside with your cum. Interesting with the BFF. You will have to give an update on the holiday and where that goes too. 

[Jacko]

I need to pick peoples brains again. Sorry.

I don’t know whether I just go for the ride or whether I’ve found some bunny boiler here.

So a very brief rundown of the trip.

Found out it was their 10 year anniversary trip. I cannot believe she kicked him in favor of me for that.

He drove us to the airport. We had sex in the back seat on the way. She made him pull over and clean up the back seat after we made a mess.

I mentioned as a bit of a joke that I didn’t want her wearing panties anymore a week ago. She has literally thrown away every pair she owned. She went commando the entire trip. Given she was also wearing the shortest skirts and dresses one could possibly imagine there wasn’t much left to the imagination. She’s got a banging body and can pull it off but a 36 year old woman going shopping in an outfit an 18 year old would wear to a nightclub… wow!

She has taken to wearing a butt plug full time because she wants to stay ready for me as I’m too big otherwise. She has never done anal before we met and now can take all 9”. That’s some skill she’s got there. Wow again!

She has some fascination with public sex. Never before, just something new. That’s not really my scene but she was happy to do it anywhere. She gave me a blowjob in the back of the limo of the way to the resort. The driver put the screen up. At the end she told the driver she knew she was watching and asked if she wanted to join us. She must have realized her place at that moment and apologized to me because it wasn’t her place to ask. The driver said no because she was working but gave us her phone number and said she was free the next night. We met for dinner and it progressed to some kissing and some brief oral sex, mainly between them but then she backed out. Half a wow!

The sex on the trip was awesome. We did everything one could think of, no restrictions, no taboos. Most of it was her first time and some of it mine as well. I’ve taught her to let go and immerse herself in the moment and now she can squirt and have body shaking orgasms….every time now. I’d never met a woman with no gag reflex, and although it was artificial (some spray apparently) it was unbelievably horny. Wow yet again!

It was a bit weird taking photos and videos all the time to send to her husband but I guess that goes with the territory.

So all of that I can handle. No problems. But it’s other things that have me worried. Please tell me if these are red flags.

She bought me a gift, a watch, I googled the price, it’s a $3000 watch. She didn’t say this but I think it might have been an anniversary present for her husband. I’m not real comfortable with taking over his 10 year anniversary trip and if the watch was a present then it doesn’t sit well with me. She made a special effort to show him I was wearing the watch so that's what made me think this.  I mean there’s some sexual humiliation and then there’s this. This is a whole different level isn’t it?

She went out alone during the trip promising to return with a special gift. She got both her labia pierced and now has a small dog tag attached with “property of Jacko” (but my actual name) on it. The reason both are done? So I can padlock them if I want!!! OMFG WOW!!! This was done on the last day so it would have time to heal because it will be at least a fortnight before I can see her again as I have a business trip. That idea didn’t last and we did anal sex in the airport toilets as soon as we got back with her husband standing guard.

She told her husband on the phone, while I was going down on her, that they are never having sex again. She will give him oral sex once a month for release and only if I allow it. And she told him that I will be bringing friends so she doesn’t need him sexually anymore. I told her I didn’t have friends that I would include so she said we will find them together. Both male and female apparently, now that she’s all of a sudden full on bisexual after that one encounter.

She told me she loved me, twice!

She told me on the plane on the way home that she was in love with me!!

After I meet her bff she also wants me to meet her parents!! Why?? She says the conversation will be difficult but she doesn’t want to hide what we have. She wants to be able to go out to dinner, take me to parties, get togethers or wherever and not have to hide. She said she will introduce me as her lover, boyfriend, master or whatever title I want.

And get this, they have a little bungalow in their back yard. She wants to move her husband out there and me to move in to the house from Friday after work until Sunday evening each week. He will cook and clean and if we have other people around he will act as the waiter and serve people. Apparently he’s agreed to this?!?!

So that’s my story. It was undeniably awesome. She is an incredible woman. I’m not sure I could walk away from this even if I wanted to, but at the same time I’m a little scared. Some of this stuff seems way over the top (or maybe not, I’m sure you can tell me). If this happened over the course of a few years then it wouldn’t sound so bad but that initial spur of the moment threesome with them was only 6 months ago and this whole cuckold thing is like less than a month old. On the other hand I feel proud. A weird feeling to have I guess, but I feel proud that I’ve helped her discover her true self. Six months ago she was a twice a week, missionary in the bedroom woman. Now she’s a true slut…new to anal sex, new to deepthroat, new to swallowing, new to women, new to public sex, new to erotic piercings, new to short skirts and dresses, new to no panties, new to anal plugs…I weirdly feel proud of that, although a little scared I’m getting in too deep. I can’t see her taking it well if I was to end it.

Interested in people thoughts. For all I know this is normal behavior in this scene.

Sorry, it was as brief as I intended.

[Kaktuscpl]

WOW INDEED!!!

I (personally) don't "get/understand" the humiliation shit/stuff/thing...

And as much as I truly enjoy/like watching her fucking/being fucked by others....I still want/enjoy/expect her to have sex with me as well..

with that said ....At least for me/IMO.... her actions,and the level of disrespect she shows her husband  is a HUGE/MAJOR "RED FLAG"

The more we learn about this lifestyle ,, we are closer to stag/vixen , hotwife couple...but we keep/like/enjoy a few things from cuckoldiing ....  like orgasim denial/edging ,and eating/clean up of creampie(s) ....

but for me/us this lifestyle choice is all about respect....

respect each other ....respect the marriage (goes folr husband and wife ,as well as the bull/FWB)   

But hey,what the fuck do I know...maybe I have it all wrong????

[Jacko]

On 1/4/2022 at 6:46 AM, Kaktuscpl said:

her actions,and the level of disrespect she shows her husband  is a HUGE/MAJOR "RED FLAG"

Yeah, I get it. 
I'm really starting to think there's something going on here, like I'm being massively pranked of something.  I mean I know that's not real because no person would go to these lengths for a prank but things just don't add up.  I'm thinking maybe the loving devoted wife story was complete crap because I just can't believe someone would do all these things so quickly, surely there has to be apprehension somewhere. 
Telling the parents !!!!!  I mean that freaked me out.  What sort of person would go to their parents and say "Hey dad and mom, you know I love my husband but meet this guy I'm fucking."?  It's just wrong.
I love what we do but I just can't fully immerse myself because it's all too weird, the jigsaw pieces don't fit.  I'm not sure I'm done but I need answers before I commit. 

[Jacko]

Hey.
Just wanted to update that my short stint in this lifestyle is over.
This woman is nuts.  I mean she's too much.  It's too full on.  There's something not right about her.  I don't know if something broke in her after that first time we were together but I refuse to believe that someone goes from loving wife with a moderate sex life to full on slut in such a short time.
What finally pushed me over the edge was her turning up to my hotel (I'm on a business trip), with her best friend (who I was yet to meet).
I answered the knock on my door to both of them standing there naked.  I got them in the room quickly and then she introduced her friend.  Now get this, her friend is married, her husband does not know but she wants to try this as well and I've been nominated as the guy.  It doesn't make sense to happen so quick.  None at all.
I'm already wary at this point but dinner was about to arrive, so I said after I eat.  It took all my power to stop her answering the door naked and propositioning whoever was there.
So I'm eating and they tell me they want to get some other guys over.  I'm like, fuck it, why not.  Then she says she'll roll a dice to decide how many, ok so now we're playing kids games.  She pulls out a 16 sided dice and rolls a 7.  The two of them start discussing how great 8 guys will be, remember this other woman is married and not in the scene.  They're still naked and masturbating at what these guys will do to them.  Then they get dressed in the sluttiest dresses imaginable and head of to a club to find there 7 guys.  I'm done at that stage but I didn't tell them.  
They came back a few hours later with 3 guys.  Angry that they couldn't get more.  I should have come to help apparently.  The guys only wanted sex, not to come back.  What did they really expect?  They're dressed as strippers and asking guys to come back for an orgy.  Things just don't add up.  
So I thought I'm going for one last ride and then we're done.  I'm all in for one night then I'm all out.
It was a great night but this woman is nuts, and her friend, well I don't know her well enough but the fact she didn't just cheat on her husband but but cheated in an orgy says all I need to know.
It's been fun.  I wish I could have kept it going.  But this woman needs to tone it down a bit.  You don't have to go from missionary sex a few times a week to rolling a dice for gangbang partners in a few months.  Ease into girl.  You don't have to answer every door naked and proposition whoever is there, that's a turn on the first time but just embarrassing if it's every time.  You don't have to bring your married friend interstate for an orgy.  And rolling a dice... I mean FFS.
I think what U could be missing out on but I also think this is a mighty big hole that I could fall in.  So with that in mind I'll be telling her when I get back that we're done.  I don't expect her to take it well at all.  And her friends seems just as intent now although she wants to keep hers secret.  
I swear this has to be the best prank ever, there's no way these people are real... and yet I've just lived it.
Sorry for the rant, I just had to get it off my chest.  
I'll update if anything interesting happens when I tell her.  

[Kaktuscpl]

3 hours ago, Jacko said:

Hey.
Just wanted to update that my short stint in this lifestyle is over.
This woman is nuts.  I mean she's too much.  It's too full on.  There's something not right about her.  I don't know if something broke in her after that first time we were together but I refuse to believe that someone goes from loving wife with a moderate sex life to full on slut in such a short time.
What finally pushed me over the edge was her turning up to my hotel (I'm on a business trip), with her best friend (who I was yet to meet).
I answered the knock on my door to both of them standing there naked.  I got them in the room quickly and then she introduced her friend.  Now get this, her friend is married, her husband does not know but she wants to try this as well and I've been nominated as the guy.  It doesn't make sense to happen so quick.  None at all.
I'm already wary at this point but dinner was about to arrive, so I said after I eat.  It took all my power to stop her answering the door naked and propositioning whoever was there.
So I'm eating and they tell me they want to get some other guys over.  I'm like, fuck it, why not.  Then she says she'll roll a dice to decide how many, ok so now we're playing kids games.  She pulls out a 16 sided dice and rolls a 7.  The two of them start discussing how great 8 guys will be, remember this other woman is married and not in the scene.  They're still naked and masturbating at what these guys will do to them.  Then they get dressed in the sluttiest dresses imaginable and head of to a club to find there 7 guys.  I'm done at that stage but I didn't tell them.  
They came back a few hours later with 3 guys.  Angry that they couldn't get more.  I should have come to help apparently.  The guys only wanted sex, not to come back.  What did they really expect?  They're dressed as strippers and asking guys to come back for an orgy.  Things just don't add up.  
So I thought I'm going for one last ride and then we're done.  I'm all in for one night then I'm all out.
It was a great night but this woman is nuts, and her friend, well I don't know her well enough but the fact she didn't just cheat on her husband but but cheated in an orgy says all I need to know.
It's been fun.  I wish I could have kept it going.  But this woman needs to tone it down a bit.  You don't have to go from missionary sex a few times a week to rolling a dice for gangbang partners in a few months.  Ease into girl.  You don't have to answer every door naked and proposition whoever is there, that's a turn on the first time but just embarrassing if it's every time.  You don't have to bring your married friend interstate for an orgy.  And rolling a dice... I mean FFS.
I think what U could be missing out on but I also think this is a mighty big hole that I could fall in.  So with that in mind I'll be telling her when I get back that we're done.  I don't expect her to take it well at all.  And her friends seems just as intent now although she wants to keep hers secret.  
I swear this has to be the best prank ever, there's no way these people are real... and yet I've just lived it.
Sorry for the rant, I just had to get it off my chest.  
I'll update if anything interesting happens when I tell her.  

I'm sorry your "adventure" has/had to end.....but at the same time think it's for the best for all parties involved 

[Naughty Nicki]

On 1/10/2022 at 6:54 AM, Jacko said:

Hey.
Just wanted to update that my short stint in this lifestyle is over.
This woman is nuts.  I mean she's too much.  It's too full on.  There's something not right about her.  I don't know if something broke in her after that first time we were together but I refuse to believe that someone goes from loving wife with a moderate sex life to full on slut in such a short time.
What finally pushed me over the edge was her turning up to my hotel (I'm on a business trip), with her best friend (who I was yet to meet).
I answered the knock on my door to both of them standing there naked.  I got them in the room quickly and then she introduced her friend.  Now get this, her friend is married, her husband does not know but she wants to try this as well and I've been nominated as the guy.  It doesn't make sense to happen so quick.  None at all.
I'm already wary at this point but dinner was about to arrive, so I said after I eat.  It took all my power to stop her answering the door naked and propositioning whoever was there.
So I'm eating and they tell me they want to get some other guys over.  I'm like, fuck it, why not.  Then she says she'll roll a dice to decide how many, ok so now we're playing kids games.  She pulls out a 16 sided dice and rolls a 7.  The two of them start discussing how great 8 guys will be, remember this other woman is married and not in the scene.  They're still naked and masturbating at what these guys will do to them.  Then they get dressed in the sluttiest dresses imaginable and head of to a club to find there 7 guys.  I'm done at that stage but I didn't tell them.  
They came back a few hours later with 3 guys.  Angry that they couldn't get more.  I should have come to help apparently.  The guys only wanted sex, not to come back.  What did they really expect?  They're dressed as strippers and asking guys to come back for an orgy.  Things just don't add up.  
So I thought I'm going for one last ride and then we're done.  I'm all in for one night then I'm all out.
It was a great night but this woman is nuts, and her friend, well I don't know her well enough but the fact she didn't just cheat on her husband but but cheated in an orgy says all I need to know.
It's been fun.  I wish I could have kept it going.  But this woman needs to tone it down a bit.  You don't have to go from missionary sex a few times a week to rolling a dice for gangbang partners in a few months.  Ease into girl.  You don't have to answer every door naked and proposition whoever is there, that's a turn on the first time but just embarrassing if it's every time.  You don't have to bring your married friend interstate for an orgy.  And rolling a dice... I mean FFS.
I think what U could be missing out on but I also think this is a mighty big hole that I could fall in.  So with that in mind I'll be telling her when I get back that we're done.  I don't expect her to take it well at all.  And her friends seems just as intent now although she wants to keep hers secret.  
I swear this has to be the best prank ever, there's no way these people are real... and yet I've just lived it.
Sorry for the rant, I just had to get it off my chest.  
I'll update if anything interesting happens when I tell her.  

From personal experience the lifestyle can be just like a very power drug and can be very addictive,  it’s not unheard of going from 0-60 in no time.  Once you get a taste of sexual freedom you are constantly wanting to push the envelope.