First Date Night - S and L

[Naughty Nicki]

45 minutes ago, leone55 said:

Leslie,  first of all I want to be clear that you and your hubby are free to do what you want and prefer and you both don't have to justify nor apologize with me. What I would to say is only that you cheated your husband and your story is not a cuckold story as you settled it up but a cheating story. And also confirm my conviction - from how your husband @@@@@@@ the story from his part - that Steve was  inside himself "forced" to accept your cheating.

What I don't absolutely agree is with those who praise your behavior as an expression of freedom and mind openness.

Yes, marriage and sex are different things but marriage is sex too and above all trust and you betrayed Steve's trust. And I don't think, as you say, that "he grew to find your sexual adventures arousing", I think he was aware that you should be returned to your guy in every case (be sincere and answer to me about that).

A last thing: what if instead of you would be him to cheat you on behind your shoulders, would you be so quiet as if nothing would be happened? Think over this.

But as I said in the beginning, they are not my issues and you are free to do what you like more (from my side I would have broken with my wife - but we all don't think in the same way).

Leone, I think what other people, including myself are praising them for is her consideration of her husband enough to not only admit she screwed up but apologize and try to make amends instead of  continuing behind his back,  which she could have easily done, and for him and her to be open minded enough to not only work through all their issues but to move on and in to something like this.  We all get into some form of the lifestyle under completely different reasons but still enjoy it just the same. I for one would rather help guide people, especially new people than condemn then for what ever reasons got them to this point. 

[leone55]

1 hour ago, Hotwife/cuck luvR said:

Leone, I think what other people, including myself are praising them for is her consideration of her husband enough to not only admit she screwed up but apologize and try to make amends instead of  continuing behind his back,  which she could have easily done, and for him and her to be open minded enough to not only work through all their issues but to move on and in to something like this.  We all get into some form of the lifestyle under completely different reasons but still enjoy it just the same. I for one would rather help guide people, especially new people than condemn then for what ever reasons got them to this point. 

N. I regret not to be agree with you this time. Said firstly that they can do what they want, Leslie can't pour us this story as cuckholding, I repeat .

a) the story starts as cheating as she cheated him on for about six months;

b) for me isn't true that she made amends and told him all, he started to suspect something as their sex life had changed (remember the "red flags" of the first thread) and   so  when she  realized he would find out soon she told him everything;

c) I continue to think that he was not happy of this intercourse and was "forced" to accept it not wanting to risk to lose her;

d) as far as I'm concerned I don't admit the betrayl (to be sincere, as a bull, I would not like to be cuckolded too);

e) S & L posting this story should expect that someone could not be agree with them (for the truth Steve didn't say anything at this matter, also if for the reasons I said before he could not say what he really think).

Of course this disagreement  does not change the admiration I have for you. 😉

[secondjag]

10 hours ago, leone55 said:

Some statements would not deserve any answer, so much they are provocative. But since someone insists on the wrong concepts that would do better to study instead of posting photos and videos taken from adult sites like Xhmaste, XVideo, Pornhub, Blacksonblonde, Blacked, Tumblr (when he allowed nudes) and so on, that each one could take from his self,  I confirm the meaning of the different terms:

SWING: when the components of a couple have sex with other people; they are called SWINGERS

CUCKOLD : when only one member of a couple has sex with other people with the partner's knowledge or agreement; if she's a woman is called HORWIFE or CUCKOLDRESS.

CHEATHING: when a member of a couple has sex behind the shoulder of the partner; if she's a woman is called SLUT.

I hope the concept has now been clarified.

This story borns as cheating, not cuckolding. I think Steve accepted (but really agreed?) to turn it on cuckolding fearing Leslie would have continued the same to meet Robert as she after did.

I suppose that was directed at me.  What do you contribute, hmm, oh, that's right, nothing.  I'd spend more time debating with you but considering the source, it just wouldn't be fair.

Happy trails

[Naughty Nicki]

6 minutes ago, leone55 said:

N. I regret not to be agree with you this time. Said firstly that they can do what they want, Leslie can't pour us this story as cuckholding, I repeat .

a) the story starts as cheating as she cheated him on for about six months;

b) for me isn't true that she made amends and told him all, he started to suspect something as their sex life had changed (remember the "red flags" of the first thread) and   so  when she  realized he would find out soon she told him everything;

c) I continue to think that he was not happy of this intercourse and was "forced" to accept it not wanting to risk to lose her;

d) as far as I'm concerned I don't admit the betrayl (to be sincere, as a bull, I would not like to be cuckolded too);

e) S & L posting this story should expect that someone could not be agree with them (for the truth Steve didn't say anything at this matter, also if for the reasons I said before he could not say what he really think).

Of course this disagreement  does not change the admiration I have for you. 😉

I think you are looking to far into it, yes it may have started out that way, but that is not what their story in a whole is about,  it is about their entry into the lifestyle.

And...... if you want to technical CUCKOLDING is exactly what you are accusing them to be doing, it is by definition a couple being in a female led relationship where the female have sexual relationships with other men and the male may or may not know about but does not have any say in it.   To me if he is on board and has agreed to her doing this and or enjoys it maybe teeter a bit on a HOTWIFE scenerio. 

[Guest SandL]

Ok, I guess I should weigh in on this. (This is S) I did write something earlier, but L asked me not to post it publicly. I had taken it personally and responded that way. So with some time to be a bit more detached, and my involvement in OUR choice and OUR lifestyle being of some debate, I thought I’d go ahead and add some clarity. I’ll be short. 

Yes, L cheated. 

Yes, I was upset. 

But no, I was not “forced” into how we have chosen to live out our marriage. 

While I had no say in her infidelity, I was not innocent. But, after many conversations over many months, WE decided to move into the direction of an alternative lifestyle for our marriage. Not so that I could stop her from leaving me (that was never going to happen) but because I grew to like the idea of her continuing a purely sexual relationship with another man. In fact, it was I who brought the possibility of such a lifestyle up to her. Again, not out of fear...but because I grew to find the idea erotic. 

I appreciate that people have read our story and I appreciate that people are interested to the point that they have felt compelled to comment. That’s why we wrote it. While I can’t stop negative reactions, I don’t appreciate anything with a negative tone toward my wife. I understand I can’t stop that from happening, so I won’t try. If we were so insecure, we would simply stop writing or leave the site altogether. But we have really enjoyed our time here so far and have come a long way into learning from others...which is why we joined to begin with...and so we’ll take the bad with the overwhelming good. 

L has gone along way to work towards reconciliation. More than I could explain and further than others might have gone. So, as her husband who loves her very much, I can’t really expect people to be as respectful as she has been...but I would certainly prefer it and appreciate it. 

[leone55]

26 minutes ago, Hotwife/cuck luvR said:

I think you are looking to far into it, yes it may have started out that way, but that is not what their story in a whole is about,  it is about their entry into the lifestyle.

And...... if you want to technical CUCKOLDING is exactly what you are accusing them to be doing, it is by definition a couple being in a female led relationship where the female have sexual relationships with other men and the male may or may not know about but does not have any say in it.   To me if he is on board and has agreed to her doing this and or enjoys it maybe teeter a bit on a HOTWIFE scenerio.  

Sorry again N. : if husband know and agrees it's cuckolding, otherwise is cheating. The intercourse started as cheating, now turned on cuckolding but for the reasons (I assume) I said before. You have to read all thethread, my dear. 😊

[Naughty Nicki]

You know what assuming does right?  Assume broken down = Ass u me it makes an ass out of u  and me,  it not nice to assume and there’s no reason not to take either of them for their word. 

[Naughty Nicki]

I have read every word,  I have been struggling not to say this because it’s not my place to nor is it your, yes I do not agree with how it started nor would I have done it that way but again that is not my place to say it nor yours,

 I apologize S and L,   I by no means mean that in a mean, hateful or judgmental way. 

[Guest SandL]

 

1 minute ago, Hotwife/cuck luvR said:

I have read every word,  I have been struggling not to say this because it’s not my place to nor is it your, yes I do not agree with how it started nor would I have done it that way but again that is not my place to say it nor yours,

 I apologize S and L,   I by no means mean that in a mean, hateful or judgmental way. 

No apologies necessary. We weren’t looking for approval. We don’t approve of how it started either. We’ve merely made good out of a bad situation. I didn’t feel the affair was worth throwing away all the good or what we could have in the future. We have both admitted that we wish it hadn’t started the way it did. Without reservation, we (especially me) have paid the costs associated with an affair. But again, we’re (especially me) not the type of people who give up on something becauseit’s hard or painful for a season. So no apologies necessary. We agree with you. And thank you for your honesty and the respectful way you have expressed it. 

S

[secondjag]

seriously folks (translation; Leone), would any of you have had an issue if hub had been first to cheat?  shut up.  it's just sex.  takes a lot more than that to make a relationship

[Naughty Nicki]

This is what’s wrong with the world now days, people are so quick to judge and belittle someone who doesn’t fit their mold inside of trying to help and guide them.  

This is not how you help people, especially new people to the lifestyle trying to find their way!!! 

[leone55]

This affair no need I waste more of my time. I closed it.

[secondjag]

😅

[twbacuck]

9 hours ago, secondjag said:

seriously folks (translation; Leone), would any of you have had an issue if hub had been first to cheat?  shut up.  it's just sex.  takes a lot more than that to make a relationship

mate how dare you say that not every one agrees who do you think you are to tell ppl to shut up its not just sex to everyone who cares who cheated its not true cuckold is it 

[1m4somefun]

For all those that seem to enjoy bashing each other, might I suggest you start your own thread and take this off of this very interesting thread from Steve and Leslie...

 

I am sure this is not what they wanted, nor do many others...

[Guest SandL]

We really didn’t mean to set people against each other. I think I’m starting to see that the real issue is that we put this thread on this site or in this particular section on the site. If that’s the case then I apologize for ignorance and being naive. We didn’t mean anything by it. We were here to learn and have fun in a setting we thought would be safe since we have no one to talk to in our lives. Friends and family are not options for us. That’s not to say that we expected everyone to love us or me. We figured there’d be some negative reactions. That can be good too. But we don’t want people to be at odds. Anyway, we’ve learned a lot and so we thank everyone for that. We really mean that. Have a great day everyone. 

[secondjag]

7 hours ago, twbacuck said:

mate how dare you say that not every one agrees who do you think you are to tell ppl to shut up its not just sex to everyone who cares who cheated its not true cuckold is it 

lmfao, "how dare I?"  oh, and, not your mate

[twbacuck]

4 hours ago, secondjag said:

lmfao, "how dare I?"  oh, and, not your mate

all good don't like it back